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Re: Electronic Voting Machines - WinVote by Adv anced Voting Solutions
From: "David L. Dill" <elections () chicory Stanford EDU>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 11:11:21 -0700
So far as I know, no one denies that denial of service attacks against wireless are basically unstoppable. However, wireless interfaces in touch-screen machines are not intended for use during actual voting. They are for downloading ballots before the election, and, sometimes, uploading results after the election. The primary concerns about wireless are computer security concerns. I am personally VERY concerned. It's very hard to make sure that wireless connections are turned off during the election, and wireless opens lots of security threats that wouldn't be serious otherwise.
Not long ago I sent out a mail regarding electronic voting, it was related to a politically motivated thread though so many likely filtered it. I suggest anyone interested take a tour of the verified voting website. They have fairly in depth coverage and information you may find useful. I also suggest you take the time to get involved and have an impact. http://www.verifiedvoting.org/ It is a US based site and debate however there is plenty of information on worldwide usage of paperless voting systems for others that may be interested. Mister Coffee wrote:Actually, no it's not illegal, and no, it's not especially dangerous. While FCC regs require Ham operators to use the "lowest practical power" in their communications, that is something that's open to interpretation. Hams on some freqs crank out 1500 watts quite readily - and safely. We're not talking about a WiFi card in your laptop, or a cell phone next to your head - there are safety considerations and limits of exposure and such. But your statement that it's illegal and dangerous is patently untrue for the amature radio crowd. Hams are, incidently, the Primary Users for the lower 6 channels (US spec) used by WiFi. Cheers, L4J On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 09:50:43AM -0300, James Tucker wrote:Of course the power ranges you quote are also illegal, not to mention extremely dangerous. On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:21:49 -0500, Michael Williamson <michael () puffin tamucc edu> wrote:Using 802.11 for anything remotely critical is outright STUPID. FCC regulations are such that these part 15 devices (802.11, cordless phones, baby monitors) have no legal protection from interference from licensed services (amateur radio, TV stations, etc). If I'm running a high powered (10-100 watt) maybe signal at 2.4 ghz for amateur radio TV and happen to be living across the street from an election center, they're basically screwed. As a matter a fact, if their 802.11 is interfering with my licensed operation, it is they who must shut down. -MichaelWithout even commenting on the "security" of WEP, it seems to me that a massive DDOS attack against the voting machines could prevent vote tallies from being counted in a timely manner.
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- RE: Electronic Voting Machines - WinVote by Adv anced Voting Solutions, (continued)
- RE: Electronic Voting Machines - WinVote by Adv anced Voting Solutions Michael Williamson (Aug 19)
- Re: RE: Electronic Voting Machines - WinVote by Adv anced Voting Solutions Tremaine (Aug 19)
- Re: Electronic Voting Machines - WinVote by Adv anced Voting Solutions Andrew Farmer (Aug 19)
- Re: Electronic Voting Machines - WinVote by Adv anced Voting Solutions Tremaine (Aug 19)
- Re: Electronic Voting Machines - WinVote by Adv anced Voting Solutions Michael Williamson (Aug 19)
- Re: Re: Electronic Voting Machines - WinVote by Adv anced Voting Solutions Tremaine (Aug 19)
- Re: RE: Electronic Voting Machines - WinVote by Adv anced Voting Solutions Tremaine (Aug 19)
- RE: Electronic Voting Machines - WinVote by Adv anced Voting Solutions Michael Williamson (Aug 19)
- Re: RE: Electronic Voting Machines - WinVote by Adv anced Voting Solutions Michael Williamson (Aug 20)
- Re: RE: Electronic Voting Machines - WinVote by Adv anced Voting Solutions Mister Coffee (Aug 20)
- Re: Electronic Voting Machines - WinVote by Adv anced Voting Solutions Jason (Aug 20)
- Re: Electronic Voting Machines - WinVote by Adv anced Voting Solutions David L. Dill (Aug 22)
- Re: Electronic Voting Machines - WinVote by Adv anced Voting Solutions da m0nk3y (Aug 23)