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RE: Comcast using IPS to protect the Internet from their home user clients?
From: "Aditya, ALD [Aditya Lalit Deshmukh]" <aditya.deshmukh () online gateway technolabs net>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:47:37 +0530
dear frank, if you are routing all your scans from a vpn and the vpn connections are encrypted as they always are then is impossible that the scan are triggering some kind of signatures. i think while they *might* have a ids installed and working, they also might be filtering based on the traffic thresholds ... the scan might been ovee the limit and the scannning stops! out isp used to do this a long ago something like in 2000, but has since stopped -aditya
Anyhow, I noticed that certain vulnerability scans, for example scans using Nikto and similar tools, when run from a Comcast address show a different behavior than when they are run from a clear, uncontrolled Internet connection (i.e. corporate T-3). In fact, it appears like Comcast has an Inline-IDS (some call it an IPS ;) sitting on its wires, filtering out certain signatures and blocking subsequent access for a short period of time. For example, scan progresses, then hangs inexplicably, then resumes, trips a sig, and hangs again. At the same time, the same scan from a non-Comcast address continues without any hick-ups. Targets have been ruled out (up and running, verified at the same time from different addresses), and connectivity to the rest of the net remains. It's looks like just the src-dst address pair is used so that all connections from a Comcast src to that particular dst are blocked for a short moment (1-5 minutes). Has anyone else noticed that? Is Comcast actually attempting to keep all those worms'n'viruses of their clients away from the Internet? How many other ISP's are known to use IPS's inline to protect themselves from the 'Net, or protect the 'Net from themselves? Regards, Frank (routing all scans via VPN through corporate hosts ;)
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- RE: Comcast using IPS to protect the Internet from their home user clients? Frank Knobbe (Mar 10)
- RE: Comcast using IPS to protect the Internetfrom their home user clients? Aditya, ALD [Aditya Lalit Deshmukh] (Mar 11)
- RE: Comcast using IPS to protect the Internetfrom their home user clients? Frank Knobbe (Mar 10)
- RE: Comcast using IPS to protect the Internet from their home user clients? Frank Knobbe (Mar 10)
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