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Re: Re: Microsoft Security, baby steps ?
From: Ron DuFresne <dufresne () winternet com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:43:43 -0600 (CST)
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This is not meant as an attempt to diminish BSD strenght. I also have an OpenBSD box on the internet, and it is awesome. The choice of shipping LESS software by default is a very wise one (and many linux distros in this regard are copying windows too much, enabling everything by default to facilitate the user - and the cracker). With 'smaller market penetration' I don't want to say that that code is less looked at (most likely it is indeed better code), but mainly that the crackers go usually after QUANTITY: they search to compromise AS MANY boxes as possible.... so they go after the most used OSes. IMHO, of course.This has been shown in the increase of linux compromises, anyway.... Why should they bother having a hard time trying to compromise a super-hardened BSD box which belongs to a savvy admin (who's most likely going to spot them soon if they succeed), rather then just trying to shoot their exploits against everything, and hope to get as many as possible ?
That's an admin/installer issue, tooo many folks on too many OS'es tend to install the kitchen sink on systems that don't need all the toys trinkets and tools that a desktop developer might need in specific circumstances. While redhat has become the linux version of M$ in all the neato desktop trinkets it has available, the admin doing the install needs to have enough whits about them to know how to trim the fat and lock the box for the purpose it is being comisioned for. Too many web servers exposed to the public have too many desktop trinkets and X window managers that are not required for the purpose at hand. Thanks, Ron DuFresne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity. It eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart ***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!*** OK, so you're a Ph.D. Just don't touch anything. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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