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Re: Hacking into private files, my credit card purchases, personal correspondence or anything that is mine is trespassing and criminal.
From: Alen Capalik <wiretap () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:40:01 -0700
I want to echo Andrew Smith's concern. THIS GUY IS FROM CITIGROUP!!! I'm glad that Citigroup is building their security around what's lawfull and what's unlawfull on the INTERNET!!! It's the Internet dude... Next time you decide to rant like this on the list and sign your name as a UNIX Security Consultant, please think twice... Wikipedia Definition: "The Internet, the extensive, worldwide computer network available to the public." -- On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:00:00 -0400, Clairmont, Jan M <jan.m.clairmont () citigroup com> wrote:
I just don't understand people who think by using some cheap trick they get into my files or website and hack them, that they have no personal responsibility. It's insane to think and criminal that anything you can get into is fair game. Just because I have a cheap lock you can break does not make invading my home or personal property yours. Eh gods man, how does this type of idiotic logic prevail, just becasue I lost my wallet does not constitute your right to use my credit card, atm card and personal information for your enrichment. Because you can get into some sieve unsecured systems gives you the right to exploit or rape a persons bank account, steal their identity and generally destroy someone's life. I have found a number of wallets and purses and returned them intact to the rightful owners, as I have done with computer systems that my friends, neightbors and clients have used with vulnerablilties or virii. Sometimes they didn't even know I helped or fixed something. You know why because I respect the privacy and property of others. And if you don't, you deserve the indignation and the handcuffs they put on you when they drag you down to chinatown, baby. Compute Fair, Compute Fun, Compute secure Jan Clairmont Paladin of Security, Take no Prisoners! Unix Security Support/Consultant _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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