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Re: win2kup2date.exe ?
From: Über GuidoZ <uberguidoz () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 14:22:51 -0400
Agreed. I was the one who possibly started this with my innocent comment of "send what you have to me and I'll see what I can figure out". It was meant to be a helping hand and nothing more... sincerely. I would expect anyone who understands the basics of the Internet to be able to track down my true identity. I've given more then enough clues for anyone knowing how to use WHOIS and Google. I'm not one of the bad guys. I was reading somewhere, yet again, that this list doesn't get the respect it deserves since the discussions are usually brought down this path of bickering and pissing contests. It's unfortunate since this list servers a wonderful purpose that seems to be overlooked by some. I apologize for any part I played in this most recent one - I was only trying to do what I could to help out someone with a question. I will continue to do so. Barry has made some of the best points to far in this discussion. There are two sides to this. Oh, and in Nick's defense, even though I may not always agree with him, I can totally understand his angle and POV. For what it's worth, I certainly don't think he is a moron. -- Peace. ~G On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 13:17:38 -0400, Barry Fitzgerald <bkfsec () sdf lonestar org> wrote:
Bugtraq Security Systems wrote:Nick, You're a moron, and a fake moron at that. If you had the clue god gave the average scriptkiddie, you'd kill yourself in shame at your own postings. Cheers, BUGTRAQ Security Systems "If Nick FitzGerald had a brain cell for every bug we tracked, he'd be smart and not an arrogant no-nothing like he is now." On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Nick FitzGerald wrote:And you missed the point of what you perceived as my anger -- that's just one of my common posting styles. You may see it as anger, but those that know better see it as the sharper side of my "here comes another one" attitude, honed over many, many years more experience of dealiing with fools than is healthy (at least for the new fools that come along every day). Quick -- around the corner to your left, there's another door... Regards, Nick FitzGeraldAlright children... Can we stop with these useless ad hominem attacks? All of us? Thanks. Listen: some people have open access to exploits, some don't. You're all right, and you're all wrong... And the final answer to all questions raised here is... it depends. How's that sound? :) Thanks. -Barry p.s. We don't want to give people who can't get access that access, and there are a lot of people who have a lot of access and there's nothing we can do to stop it. Back, oh, 10 years ago when things like this happened on Bulletin Board Systems, I remember that there were these blacklists that were distributed to keep people off of said boards. If a person showed themselves to be untrustworthy, they got booted and added to the blacklist. Not to mention that getting access in the first place wasn't usually the easiest thing. This is, obviously, much harder to control in this day and age, but even in those days the script kiddies got ahold of code and methods they weren't supposed to have. Like I said, the answer is "it depends...". There's no unifying rule here.
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- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Über GuidoZ (Sep 03)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Barry Fitzgerald (Sep 02)
- RE: win2kup2date.exe ? James Patterson Wicks (Sep 02)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Über GuidoZ (Sep 02)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? James Tucker (Sep 02)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Über GuidoZ (Sep 02)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? James Tucker (Sep 03)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Nick FitzGerald (Sep 03)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Bart . Lansing (Sep 08)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Bugtraq Security Systems (Sep 08)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Barry Fitzgerald (Sep 08)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Über GuidoZ (Sep 08)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Nick FitzGerald (Sep 09)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Richard Johnson (Sep 09)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Nick FitzGerald (Sep 09)
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- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Richard Johnson (Sep 09)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Micheal Espinola Jr (Sep 09)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Über GuidoZ (Sep 09)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? KF_lists (Sep 09)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Über GuidoZ (Sep 09)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? John Galt (Sep 10)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? KF_lists (Sep 10)
- Re: win2kup2date.exe ? Nick FitzGerald (Sep 03)