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Re: Hacking Boot camps!


From: Christian kopacsi <ckopacsi () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:35:11 -0500

InfoSecBOFH,
Show me on the doll where they touched you.  You should see a therapist to
get a grip on all your issues.  And why would you talk shit about Clement?
He has done so much for the Infosec community.



On 11/24/05, InfoSecBOFH <infosecbofh () gmail com> wrote:

Bottom line is... and you can ignore the SANS instructor/SANS zealot
post...

SANS = SHIT.

Now that I am in a position with my employer to hire and fire
people... I will not even consider an applicant who touts his SANS
certification as something to be proud of or something to make him
more skilled than the next.

And, now that I am in a senior position at my employer, I am doing
everything I can to stop my employer from paying the EXTORTION fees to
SANS in order to be a part of their what works program and any of
their training.

You know what makes me smile everyday... the knowledge in knowing that
I am not the only senior infosec person at a major corporation who
feels this way about SANS.

Fuck SANS.  FUCK EM ALL!

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sans#without

sans    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (snz, sä)
prep.
Without.



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[Middle English, from Old French, blend of Latin sine, without, and
absenti, in the absence of, ablative of absentia, absence from absns,
absent- present participle of abesse, to be away. See absent.]

On 11/23/05, senator.crabgrass () comcast net
<senator.crabgrass () comcast net> wrote:
Maybe it is not what you know but who you know.  Best of luck with that
grail thing, finding it is veiled, holding it is easy, keeping it polished
is where the work is.

--
vote for me


On 11/23/05, senator.crabgrass () comcast net
<senator.crabgrass () comcast net> wrote:
... the cert game is nothing more than  a lucrative revenue
generator. For
either the test givers or the vender pusher or the land of test king.

a few respectable names in their roster[1]; i wonder why they don't
name the instructor giving each presentation on their conference
schedule[2]...

i have a theory: the more legitimately skilled you are, the less you
instruct and the more you are paid.  a nice way to convert reputation
into ca$h!

[maybe i can get in on this racket once i attain the holy grail of
CPA, GCFW, CISSP, CISM, CISA, CCNA, CCSE, CCSA, GIAC, GCIA, GSNA,
GCFA, GCIH, GCUX, GSEC, QUE, WTFBBQ]

1. http://www.sans.org/instructors.php
2. http://www.sans.org/index.php
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