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Re: McAfee VirusScan vs Metasploit Framework v2.x
From: Michael Holstein <michael.holstein () csuohio edu>
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 16:25:48 -0500
Hmm, when I was working at a state run institute, we had a policy of letting the students do things that helped them learn. What better way to learn about the importance of error handling than exploiting what happens when you dont learn about them?
(extracted) : All Users of University Computing Resources must:2) Use only those computing resources that they are authorized to use and use them only in the manner and to the extent authorized. Ability to access computing resources does not, by itself, imply authorization to do so. Users are responsible for ascertaining what authorizations are necessary and for obtaining them before proceeding. Accounts and passwords may not, under any circumstances, be shared with, or used by, persons other than those to whom they have been assigned by the university.
Just let them mess around on a private network you say?
Classes where hacking topics do exactly that. Unfortunately the law does not provide an exception for "educational hacking". Doesn't matter if you were just "testing" a buffer overflow on somebody else's computer (without permission, outside a lab, etc) -- or you were trying to change your test score. Illegal access is exactly that -- illegal.
You cant reproduce the internet (except inet2 =P). Also, if a school squashes creativity, or hampers research (in what ever form they may take) you will not be able to compete in the educational arena.
Telling students they can't hack into stuff they don't own doesn't squash creativity -- it enforces the law.
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