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RE: In USA the Government Votes for YOU?- Electronic Voting Systems'Security, Report
From: "Ken Stout" <Ken.Stout () clarkeusa com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:03:49 -0400
I think the whole situation in Ohio is being dealt with as it should. The voting "Irregularities" that this report notes are horribly one sided. Another interesting document that came from the Ohio Board of Elections documented how these irregularities also occurred in Lucas County. Ken Blackwell asked for the resignation of the entire county board of elections because of their behavior and said irregularities in the election last year. Lucas County has long been considered a Democratic stronghold. Toledo is a big union town with a large blue collar workforce, both of which vote along party lines. The document I'm talking about is available from the Ohio website. http://serform.sos.state.oh.us/sos/elections/lucas/LucasCountyInvestigationReport.pdf The interesting parts start on page 3 of that document. The scary part of this entire situation, with security in mind, Lucas county had the potential to become an enormous voter fraud issue. All those ballots just sitting in an office behind unlocked doors. I only ask that people understand the whole story before drawing conclusions. Yes, Ohio had voting irregularities, but these irregularities affect both sides of the fence. But I digress, as this is an info sec forum, not a political commentary arena... Ken Stout IT Manager Clarke Power Products 28740 Glenwood Road Perrysburg Ohio 43551 Phone: 419-930-2299 Ext. 215 Fax: 419-930-2288 ken.stout () clarkeusa com -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk]On Behalf Of bkfsec Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:22 PM To: Paul Schmehl Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] In USA the Government Votes for YOU?- Electronic Voting Systems'Security, Report Paul Schmehl wrote:
Interesting in what way? There's one unsubstantiated claim of electronic voting machines in one area that "transferred" an unknown number of votes from Kerry to Bush. The entire rest of the report has to do with procedural complaints that have applicability to any security issues that I'm aware of. There's no evidence presented of fraud or malfunction issues regarding electronic voting machines other than the single unsubstantiated claim mentioned above. If you're referring to the broader issue of fairness in elections, I'll get excited about Conyers' report when the Democrats thoroughly investigate Wisconsin and Washington. Until then, their complaints fall on deaf ears.
Wisconsin and Washington are apples and oranges when compared to the potential scope of fraud in Ohio or Florida. Most democrats would agree with you, though, that investigations should occur (myself included)... that is, non-biased investigations with the intent of finding out any errors that actually occurred and repairing them. Of course, we could just reply to the republican disgust over Washington and Wisconsin by just repeating the often used line "Get over it", but that would too far expose the hypocrisy of the roght-wing agenda. And that such complaints would fall on deaf ears with you, Paul, is not surprising. In any case, you're right about one thing... as interesting as this report is, it's probably not entirely relevent here; but I suspect that's not the real reason that you objected to its content. -Barry _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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