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Re: Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home]
From: "Ivan ." <ivanhec () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 09:15:06 +1100
Your quite a piece fo work Dave. The "secret" server is acutally zonelabs.com, hence the workaround to edit the hosts file and map that domain to the loopback address. Do you know how windows hosts file works? No, here is link that may help you Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts File http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm The work around issued by zonealarm and their response to this list, is proof enough for me that there was an issue and probably quite a few other people. But not you Dave, eh? On 2/7/06, Dave Korn <davek_throwaway () hotmail com> wrote:
Frank Knobbe wrote:On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 14:06 +0000, Dave Korn wrote:The company says it will fix the "bug" soon. In the meantime you canwork >around it by adding:# Block access to ZoneLabs Server 127.0.0.1 zonelabs.com to your Windows host file.2) You aren't the first person in the world to mistake the loopback interface for a routable address, but you do look just as dumb as everyone else who's ever done it down the annals of history.You might want to remove your foot from your own mouth. The loopback thing is a workaroundI'm perfectly aware of that, but if you had actually read this thread you would realise that's not the issue under discussion. I claimed that Cringely was spreading FUD, because he hadn't so much as shown us a packet trace or an IP address. Ivan told me to "read the article again Dave, you'll find that he did provide the ip address of the destination servers to Zonelaram". When I point out to Ivan that a) the article was not by Cringely but a second-hand report of Cringely's original article, and that b) 127.0.0.1 is not the ip address of the destination servers, I am correct, and the fact that redirecting a hostname lookup to the loopback address is an effective method of blocking an adbanner does not in any way contradict anything I've said nor confirm anything Ivan said. Maybe that taste of shoe leather you've noticed is coming from your own mouth?You might want to think yourself before assailing other posters verbally. But frankly, I don't care since your email just qualified you for my plonker list.That's your choice; if you're happier reading FUD-spreading mis-reported nonsense from people who don't even know the loopback address when they see it rather than well-informed posts from people who have done their background research and know the field, you're going the right way about it. Of course, you're the ever-so-reasonable guy whose posts are full of emotive and pejorative terms like "presume we're all lusers", "wild assumptions", "must be an idiot", "piece of shit", "satisfy the ego", "stop sucking", so I call PKB on you, troll.Cheers, Frank PS: zonelabs.com resolves to 208.185.174.44 in case you're still wondering about an IP address.Your adroitness with nslookup hardly compensates for your not having paid any attention to the actual *content* of the discussion you wish to contribute to.PPS: Of course that's not proof of anything. Packet traces would be preferred, but I'd think anyone with Zone Alarm could probably gather those easily.If you'd care to actually look at this thread, you would have seen that that is the main point of my original post.(...Why do I even care...)You clearly don't care enough to read the thread and try and follow the argument you're responding to. I suggest that if you don't care that much, you really shouldn't bother writing a half-baked response that utterly misses the point. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today.... _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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Current thread:
- Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home Dave Korn (Feb 03)
- Re: Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home Ivan . (Feb 05)
- According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-home server is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Dave Korn (Feb 06)
- Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-home server is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Frank Knobbe (Feb 06)
- Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Dave Korn (Feb 06)
- Re: Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Ivan . (Feb 06)
- RE: Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re:Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Greg (Feb 06)
- Re: Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re:Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Ivan . (Feb 06)
- Re: Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re:Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Ivan . (Feb 07)
- According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-home server is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Dave Korn (Feb 06)
- Re: Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re:Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Dave Korn (Feb 07)
- Re: Re: Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re:Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Ivan . (Feb 07)
- Cringely's FUD-spreading leads to broken workarounds being suggested Dave Korn (Feb 09)
- Re: Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home Ivan . (Feb 05)