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Re: SSL VPNs and security
From: Q-Ball <qballus () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:00:56 +1000
Sure traffic can be filtered, but the point is that the layer 7 connection is terminated at the network perimiter rather than the internatl network which is typically much less protected. On 6/14/06, Ray P <sixsigma98 () hotmail com> wrote:
Why do I keep reading that "IPSec provides full network connectivity"? SC Magazine just repeated this nonsense. It only does that if you have it configured that way. Even Microsoft's PPTP & L2TP "free" stuff can be limited. And you can configure an SSL VPN to do likewise. Ray >From: Q-Ball <qballus () gmail com> >To: Tim <tim-security () sentinelchicken org> >CC: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk >Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] SSL VPNs and security >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:13:45 +1000 > >SSL VPNs have their legitimate place as does IPSec. Personally, I'd rather >that travelling exec's who need to log on from a public Internet terminal, >dont have full IP connectivity into the network, but maybe that's just me. > >Q-Ball > >On 6/10/06, Tim <tim-security () sentinelchicken org> wrote: >> >> > That depends on whether the solution tries to solve single-sign-on >> > problems as well. If the vendor is trying to handle SSO in such an >> > environment, then they are probably using domain cookies. The >> > problems are exactly the same as the ones Michal listed, plus some >> > additional ones specific to domain cookies. >> >>Right, that does make it difficult. There's probably work arounds, but >>they may be browser-specific. Wildcard cookies, cookies set to other >>origins, or somehow setting document.domain back to the base domain >>after the initial page load might help, but some would probably present >>the same problem. >> >>The web was never designed for complex application development. At >>least, web standards aren't. Use a real VPN. >> >>cheers, >>tim >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> >_______________________________________________ >Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- SSL VPNs and security Michal Zalewski (Jun 08)
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- Re: SSL VPNs and security Michal Zalewski (Jun 08)
- Re: SSL VPNs and security E Mintz (Jun 09)
- Re: SSL VPNs and security Michal Zalewski (Jun 08)
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- Re: SSL VPNs and security E Mintz (Jun 09)
- Re: SSL VPNs and security Tim (Jun 09)
- Re: SSL VPNs and security Brian Eaton (Jun 09)
- Re: SSL VPNs and security Tim (Jun 09)
- Re: SSL VPNs and security Q-Ball (Jun 12)
- Re: SSL VPNs and security Ray P (Jun 13)
- Re: SSL VPNs and security Q-Ball (Jun 13)
- Re: SSL VPNs and security Brian Eaton (Jun 09)
- Re: SSL VPNs and security Tim (Jun 09)
- Re: SSL VPNs and security Michael Holstein (Jun 09)
- Re: SSL VPNs and security Tim (Jun 09)
- Re: SSL VPNs and security Brian Eaton (Jun 09)
- Re: SSL VPNs and security Michael Holstein (Jun 09)
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- Re: SSL VPNs and security wnorth (Jun 09)