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From: <ninjadaito () hushmail com>
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 07:00:57 +1000

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BRAVO!!!!!  Well done bkfsec!!

It seems that most everybody knows the truth except those still
blinkered by the Neocons and their media brainwashing campaign.

BTW, quite a good related article by Manuel Valenzuela (for those
interested) can be found at: -
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14958.htm

And lastly; wake up Paul!!!

Luv,
Ninja.

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 00:26:15 +1000 bkfsec <bkfsec () sdf lonestar org>
wrote:
Throwaway1 () columbus rr com wrote:


It's not a joke Gary.
If you are attempting to make the claim that Saddam NEVER had WMD
you are
either Profoundly Misinformed, Astonishingly Ignorant of Late
20th Century
History; or simply Lying.


Wow.  How utterly intellectually dishonest of you...

Saying that the Bush administration knowingly lied about Weapons
of Mass
Destruction is *NOT* saying that Saddam never had WMD.  What
planet do
you live on?  Are you really that fucking dense to believe that
people
claiming the administration lied believe Saddam never had WMDs?

This is an old right-wing, dittohead radio talking point from 2003
that
never was grounded in reality and shows exactly where you're
coming from.



We never did find the stockpiles we were looking for. The closest
we came
was a shitload of bunkers filled with nerve agents that were
still in their
unmixed binary form; and some bio-warfare reference strains.


Disproven... you fell into a hoax yourself.. or really, you bought
the
rhetoric which took bits and pieces of a weapons inspection report
and
piecemealed it to death until it said "WMDs" when it didn't.


So that means that either damn near every major intelligence
agency in the
world was wrong at the SAME TIME, or Saddam did a better job of
hidin' 'em
than we did of lookin' for 'em.


Bullshit.  Not all intelligence agencies agreed on the existance
or
number of WMDs in his possession.  In fact, there was significant
disagreement in our own governmental agencies regarding those
points.
In fact, our own former weapons inspecters made statements saying
that
there's no way he had the levels that we were claiming.  The UN
weapons
inspection team disagreed with those figures and, golly gee, they
might
have a good reason to have disagreed.

Yet again you dredge up another bullshit right-wing talking point
that
is not grounded in reality...

I don't need to listen to you, all I need to do is turn on the
fucking
radio and switch to my local fascist propaganda channel.



Now I realize that there are a lot of people who don't like GWB.
That's
fine with me. Not my problem. What IS my problem is those same
people
sacrificing LOGIC and COMMON SENSE on the alter of their rage at
Bush and
as a result perpetuating a completely false history of the past 5-
6 years.



Bullshit. You know what's sacrificing logic and common sense?
Ignoring
the facts in front of you, which is precisely what you're doing.

Common sense says that there's no way he could have still had WMDs
that
our own people destroyed.  Common sense says you question the
validity
of sources used to provide proof.  Common sense says you interpret
all
of the data, not piecemeal specific portions of it.

You say you have a problem with people creating a conclusion and
picking
and choosing evidence to support it?  How ironic that that's
precisely
what the Bush administration did.  You'd have to be a moron not to
see
that at this point.  And not only that, but at this point you're
not
just a moron, you're also a hypocrite for defending the Bush
administration for doing precisely what you're accusing the rest
of us
for doing.

Hey buddy, you chose the wrong side.  Don't take it out on us.

            -bkfsec


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