Re: [fuzzing] The truth

["Joey Mengele" <joey.mengele () hushmail com>]

Yeah he is pretty dumb lol.

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:48:18 -0400 David Maynor 
<dave () erratasec com> wrote:
> Obviously you don't read his blog then, where he can't spell 
> anything or use grammar correctly. 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joey Mengele [mailto:joey.mengele () hushmail com] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:44 AM
> To: joey.mengele () hushmail com; andre () operations net; lmh@info-
> pull.com; David Maynor
> Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk; 
> fuzzing () whitestar linuxbox org; dailydave () lists immunitysec com
> Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] [fuzzing] The truth
>
> The real David would know that the quotation marks go around 
> "David" and not "real". I am good friends with the real David and 
> have never once seen him misuse quotations as was done here. QED, 
> impostor.
>
> J
>
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:38:36 -0400 David Maynor 
> <dave () erratasec com> wrote:
> > Guess the proof will be if the "real" David doesn't complain or 
> > refute these claims.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joey Mengele [mailto:joey.mengele () hushmail com] 
> > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:36 AM
> > To: joey.mengele () hushmail com; andre () operations net; lmh@info-
> > pull.com; David Maynor
> > Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk; 
> > fuzzing () whitestar linuxbox org; dailydave () lists immunitysec com
> > Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] [fuzzing] The truth
> >
> > Well "David", you clearly have not followed the life and times of 
> > the Doctor. The Great Doctor (I am not referring to myself here) 
> > has also been impersonated by hackers who cleverly used PGP to 
> > fool 
> > the masses. I talked to Neal about this and he has told me he 
> > suspects PGP has been cracked. 
> >
> > So yes, PGP is good, but the only real evidence one can provide 
> as 
> > proof of identity are pictures of his or her own butt as Jarod 
> > DeMott has previously offered up on this list.
> >
> > So "David", wheres the REAL proof?
> >
> > J
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:27:18 -0400 David Maynor 
> > <dave () erratasec com> wrote:
> > > I am going to guess it has something to do with the pgp 
> > signature, 
> > > I can post from dave () erratasec com and I can update the 
> erratasec 
> > > blog. 
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joey Mengele [mailto:joey.mengele () hushmail com] 
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:16 AM
> > > To: andre () operations net; lmh () info-pull com; David Maynor
> > > Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk; 
> > > fuzzing () whitestar linuxbox org; dailydave () lists immunitysec com
> > > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [fuzzing] The truth
> > >
> > > But what does Dr. Neal Krawetz have to say? I will not draw any 
> > > conclusions until he has the time to analyze the writing 
> samples. 
> > > As Neal has taught us, the students of Full Disclosure, there is 
> > > no 
> > > validation required for online impersonation [1]. How do we know 
> > > you are not impersonating this David Maynor character?
> > >
> > > More importantly, and of equal relevance to this list (these 
> > > lists?), how can we be sure you aren't n3td3v? Or GOBBLES? Or 
> > both?
> > > J
> > >
> > > [1] http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/441
> > >
> > > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:36:49 -0400 David Maynor 
> > > <dave () erratasec com> wrote:
> > > > http://erratasec.blogspot.com/2007/07/i-am-not-lmh.html
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:full-
> > > > disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of 
> > > > andre () operations net
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:15 AM
> > > > To: Lance M. Havok
> > > > Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk; 
> > > > fuzzing () whitestar linuxbox org; dailydave () lists immunitysec com
> > > > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [fuzzing] The truth
> > > >
> > > > Dave / LMH / whatever,
> > > >
> > > > Give up.
> > > >
> > > > You really don't get it, do you?
> > > >
> > > > Rouland, Ptacek, hdm, myself - we're all out to get you.
> > > > Infosecsellout is a collaborative effort to drive you insane.
> > > >
> > > > Aitel even wrote that script just to make you more paranoid.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone actually cares that you used two identities online 
> I'll
> > > > really be surprised.  So did my grandma.
> > > >
> > > > Is this some kind of story?  A confession?  A bug report?  Your 
> > > > whole
> > > > paragraph about SILC leads nowhere - it doesn't make any sense.
> > > >
> > > > Ptacek, hdm, myself, et al - we all know who Infosecsellout is. 
>
> > > > Not
> > > > because we wrote clever scripts that do user fingerprinting via
> > > > behavorial statistical analysis.  Think of it more like hearing 
> > > the
> > > > voice of an old friend call you on the phone.  Someone you 
> > haven't
> > > > heard from in awhile.  Easy to identify, correct?
> > > >
> > > > Wait, why am I asking you? - that's probably never going to 
> > > happen 
> > > > to you.
> > > >
> > > > dre
> > > >
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