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What the UK government care about in a hacker
From: n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:08:05 +0100
I think we've gone beyond the F-Secure has said stage, I think folks are looking for something more. I think the security space has evolved already in respect of home user hackers, the security professional circuit and with the government. Infact the government are finding it hard to keep up with what's possible by the government and what's technologically possible by joe average in his bedroom. A few years ago it was impossible for joe average to shoot the live scene of a national emergency via his cell phone, email that footage to a national television station and that to be used as prime time evidence of the incident, now it is. With this I look onto the media, its still using F-Secure press releases for its news round. Your average joe is now able to creep behind the media wall and get the news before the outlet gets time to read up. The fact, the media is becoming less important in the security arena for bringing us news. Your average joe can configure google.com/ig to give them keyword news thats coming onto the news wires and google.com/alerts can too. What used to be a government fundamental for the intelligence services, is now becoming a challenge for them to know what user is signed upto what and how much they know. Before it was more straight forward, they would know what news sites were available as civilian intelligence sources but now its becoming less obvious. The intelligence community are having to dig deep into online community to see what is possibly being plotted and what sources of information they have and the technique in which its gathered. Today the world is changing, what used to be charted water only reserved for the intelligence services is now also being used by the civilian population. It's scary times, hackers have the best ability to over come the intelligence services, not the script kids, but the hackers! The main focus for the British intelligence service is mobile and anything to do with radio frequency hacks, including RFID type stuff, that's high on the British government look out. The media are hyping about mobile phone worm, while this hype *is* unfounded right now, thats not to say its not top on the British government's watch list of most desirable vulnerability threat vector against national infrastructure of government and civilian population. The hax0r credibility score board from the government's point of view isn't hacks in safari, fire fox or internet explorer, its telecommunications and radio frequency hacks right now. So while you and your friends might think browser hacks, etc.. think again, the real stuff that gets the UK government interested in you is radio, mobile and chip hacks, anything to do with electronics and communication, they don't actually give a fuck about applications, DNS hacks, Cisco router hacks and the like. While those things like DNS hacks, Cisco router hacks and the like are internet critical, they aren't national security critical... So hackers, if you want the most hax0r credibility points and attention with the UK government, think national infrastructure, radio frequency, chip hacks and mobile telecommunication interception. If you want head hunted into the UK government cyber defensive, offensive and research departments go for those vectors... keep away from silly stuff like web browser hacks, DNS poisoning, Cisco etc. How will the UK government contact you? Brute guys will jump out of a range rover land rover which will have darkened windows and will give you an offer you can't refuse after abducting you for five minutes based on your research post on Full-Disclosure. All the best, n3td3v _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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