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Re: Firewire Attack on Windows Vista


From: Tim <tim-security () sentinelchicken org>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:44:19 -0800

Is it not possible for Windows (or any OS) to open up DMA for a device
only to a certain range? 

If not, what options are available? 

I have various forms of RSI and don't feel like typing it again: 

On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 12:00:09PM -0800, Tim wrote:
[...]
Of course this is not an optimal fix.  The drivers should just
automatically restrict the DMA accesses in real time to a range that is
safe but still permits devices to use it.  (Presumably to buffers
allocated specifically for I/O.)  Not sure if some devices would still
have problems with this, but I think this is the intended operation of
ieee1394 based on the specs and I'd imagine it would work on a greater
number of devices than having it disabled completely.
[...]

So yes, this is possible.  AFAIK, driver writers on all sides have just
been lazy.  At least with free OSes they have a lame hack to protect
you.

tim

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