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Re: OpenID. The future of authentication on the web?


From: reepex <reepex () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:33:41 -0500

thats right pdp  - go run to your protected lists and blogs where you don't
have to hear anything negative and where you can flame people without
contest who talk against you.

you are another Bill O Reilly and everyone thinks of you as such. enjoy your
sheep.


On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Petko D. Petkov <
pdp.gnucitizen () googlemail com> wrote:

Hi Steven,

I guess most 1337 hax0rs will flame you on this list. There are good
security blogs you can follow and learn from instead. Full-disclosure
is for rants and bashing only!

I can point you to some articles that I wrote regarding OpenID,
however, let me share my thoughts quickly as that will save you some
time and of course if you are still curious you can go research
further.

First of all, OpenID is a very simple but rather useful technology.
With OpenID you have only one account, your ID, which you can use
everywhere where the OpenID technology is supported. It is not clear
whether this setup is more secure from what we have at the moment
(every site forces you to register unique username/password pair) but
it is definitely more convenient. The first argument "for" OpenID is
that the more you share your secrets, credits card information,
usernames, password, the higher the chances this information to be
leaked or stolen. On the other hand, OpenID is prone to phishing
attacks so user education is required.

Think about OpenID as the equivalent of PayPal for authentication. In
theory, it is more secure to pay through paypal as you are not sharing
your credit card information with everyone else but a single provider.

I am all "for" OpenID as you can spend good time on securing a single
system. If the OpenID provider is not vulnerable to common Web attacks
and it provides good privacy mechanisms such as SSL and the top of
which are build good authentication features such as one-time tokens,
etc.... then OpenID is the preferable choice. Keep in mind though,
that if your OpenID account is hacked, the attacker will be able to
login as you anywhere they want. This is the main concern and
disadvantage.

pdp

P.S. dear list, the only reason I am not priv-massaging Steven is
because I believe that there are other people who are interested in
this topic. So, instead of wasting valuable resources and energy
answering everyone individually, I've decided to do it once hoping
that this message will be seen by others. Thanks!

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Steven Rakick <stevenrakick () yahoo com>
wrote:
Hello list,

 I'm curious what the group thinks about the recent
 surge in support for OpenID across the web and the
 impact it will have.

 1) Beemba - http://www.beemba.com
 2) ClaimID - http://www.claimid.com
 3) MyOpenID - http://www.myopenid.com
 4) Many others...

 These sites are gaining in popularity quickly and with
 the announcements of support from big players Yahoo,
 AOL, Microsoft and Google, combined with smaller
 web2.0 celeb-run sites like Digg, OpenID appears to
 what will eventually be the norm.

 Thoughts?

 I've also noticed that many of these sites are
 bundling Information Card support (CardSpace on
 Windows). Sounds like a good idea as it compliments
 OpenID and helps address some weaknesses.

 Again, any thoughts?

 I'm really just interested in a dialog.

 -sr



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