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Re: How Prosecutors Wiretap Wall Street
From: mikelitoris () hushmail com
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:06:42 -0800
But to gather intelligence about what terrorists are up to, even
if a US citizen is involved, should not require a warrant. This is all well and good, until the definition of terrorist is changed and you become labeled a "terrorist" because your "reason" is suddenly counterproductive to someone else's "opinion". You must apply the warrant requirement consistently. Otherwise, when interpretation of the word "terrorist" changes, it affects the meaning of the law. And call me crazy, but I'm just not willing to assume that someone won't abuse the power of being able to surveil US citizens and do exactly what Nixon did, spy on their competition/detractors. Surely you can admit that some people do things that they wouldn't normally do when big money and big power are involved. After all, "Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it." Don't be so naive to think it can't happen again.
Intelligence works best in a world of secrecy.
So does deception. Significantly more so, in fact.
As I've pointed out now several times, it's analogous to people
that get all hot and bothered by the fact that admins have access to the data on their computers. Yes, but that computer probably doesn't belong to me but instead to my employer. If it belongs to me, you better have a policy that prevents me from using it at work, and/or a login disclaimer informing me of your right to monitor what I do if I connect to your network. If not, you better damn well have a warrant if you want to take a look at my property. And as far as I know, there's no login disclaimer on the interwebs that allows the government to monitor what I do on that network, nor on the telephone, or my mobile phone contract.
From what I've read getting a warrant in 72 hours is almost
impossible. Ahah! Now we're on to something. Here's an idea. Make it easier to get that warrant when you need it. Improve the process, so that when requested, a warrant can be turned around in hours, not days. Don't remove the requirement altogether. That's simply inviting trouble. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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