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Re: how i stopped worrying and loved the backdoor
From: Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com>
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 14:43:49 -0800
Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2010, at 2:38 PM, BMF <badmotherfsckr () gmail com> wrote:
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 2:12 PM, <cpolish () surewest net> wrote:Check out Markus Jacobsson et al, "A Practical Secure Physical Random Bit Generator", 1998, using the turbulence of airflow inside the drive as the source of randomness. Can't do much better than that.I read that when it came out. I am quite familiar with turbulent boundary layers. Nobody sells hardware (hard drives, in this case) which actually implements the technique. All of my original queries still stand.
Making noisy diodes isn't all that hard, AFAIK. You eliminate bias by only returning difference bits -- 01 is a 0, 10 is a 0. Whether the underlying silicon is in fact doing that...well, that's a question for the chip reversers.
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