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Re: What do you guys think about it?
From: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429 () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 08:14:17 +0200
Of course it's boring, the days when one said "I've just found another 50 holes in MS's network stack" are all gone. The thing is, you are either a security professional *testing products* or you're just talking about security thinking you are one. In the past all it took to "become a 'hacker'" was getting informed about hacking techniques, finding some exploit (which was way more easy than today) and finally someone calling you "hacker". Mind you, many call me "hacker" seeing me using consoles but (irony irony) I'm no [seasoned] hacker. As a software developer, I still find certain security issues challenging. Sure Mr Purser might find everything less exciting, but hey did you write anything from scratch lately? What are you coding in, Javascript or JQuery (as an example)? My point is, frameworks and products address security issues themselves, making it easier for end-developers to use. But a big time hacker like Mr Purser finds it boring. As of myself, I refrain from depending on frameworks for a single useful feature, which means I have to write from scratch and study that feature, making sure it is "safe". And who knows, while at it I might notice a bu or two in the said framework... Regards, Christian Sciberras On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Thor (Hammer of God) <Thor () hammerofgod com>wrote:
Exactly. -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of Marsh Ray Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 12:37 PM To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] What do you guys think about it? On 5/28/2010 2:18 PM, Rafael Moraes wrote:Read and give your opinion! http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/60303If he thinks security is boring problem solved by installing the latest plug-in appliance, I see he has two options: 1. Publicly issue a "hack me" challenge listing the names of his employers/clients. Extend a big middle finger to some organized international groups. That might make his job more interesting for a while. - or - B. Step aside and let somebody with energy and imagination have a turn. - Marsh _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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Current thread:
- What do you guys think about it? Rafael Moraes (May 28)
- Re: What do you guys think about it? Marsh Ray (May 28)
- Re: What do you guys think about it? Thor (Hammer of God) (May 28)
- Re: What do you guys think about it? Christian Sciberras (May 28)
- Re: What do you guys think about it? Thor (Hammer of God) (May 28)
- Re: What do you guys think about it? Georgi Guninski (May 31)
- Re: What do you guys think about it? T Biehn (May 31)
- Re: What do you guys think about it? Christian Sciberras (May 31)
- Re: What do you guys think about it? T Biehn (May 31)
- Re: What do you guys think about it? T Biehn (May 31)
- Re: What do you guys think about it? Marsh Ray (May 28)