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Re: An enemy of the infosec community needs to be brought to justice
From: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429 () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 01:06:40 +0100
I must admit this is the first time I heard about this person. I did the obvious, running a Google search on his name, coming up with the following page: http://gregorydevans.com/ I sure hope that is NOT in fact his page. Surely an "entrepreneur" knows how to writing visually appeasing websites, which even a 10 year old could do. Assuming the above is in fact his site, I took the liberty to criticize those supposedly "facts". #1 - I know of another guy that did a similar thing to AT&T. Got caught over drug issues. #2 - Some people are permanently glued to TV. Plus, you need acting skills to appear on TV, not "hacking". #3 - Whatever. I've repeatedly taught people my own age (an sometimes older) certain aspects of a certain industry. Not a biggie really. #4 - Gregory D Evans invented GPS?!! (I was being sarcastic) #5 - I know a guy that wrote the world's best seller over a security-related fiction story. He doesn't count himself as the "World's #1 Hacker". #6 - Uhm, there's always a fist time. Successful writers are usually good at it. #7 - Uh, nope?! How exactly does Mr Evans track downloading of his competitors? #8 - Irrelevant. #9 - Irrelevant. (hint: how many such companies actually exist? the only one != the best one can get) #10 - The effectiveness of such courses could be more relevant. As an independent developer, I realized one can learn from a 4-hour tutorial more than one can get from a whole year of CS at Uni. #11 - Well, there's company which is the only one in history to serve our company. What about it? #12 - Must have took a long time to realize this after #6. #13 - So what? Lots of people writes mobile applications. Speaking of myself, I write real software, not package some sh*t in a "mobile application" and call it a masterpiece. #14 - Irrelevant. #15 - Only a fool would enjoy his stay of "Fools Weekly". If both channels have casual viewers as the intended audience, I doubt his stay served any purpose. Now, if it were a BBC documentary, I'd give some credit... #16 - Might be because no one else sees it worthwhile? #17 - Oh God. Seriously. #18 - I was pretty sure "geek.net" was much more popular. Either case, appearances may not mean anything. You'd be surprised what a monster of a PC could be hidden behind a P2-era case... #19 - It all comes down to what the adjective, "largest", is applied to. For instance, if it applied to "ugliness and hot air", I'd wholeheartedly agree. #20 - Uh, no 20?! It's worth to note that a little time into writing this, I noticed his WORDPRESS site was DOWN (or, uhm, seems like someone flipped over a switch ;) or several..). Well, Wordpress is a good platform, but his site really puts Wordpress to shame. Well, maybe while fixing his site, he might consider getting a professional 10-year-old to do it. Maybe great hackers don't have the time to design visually appeasing stuff, who knows! Cheerio, Chris. On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 7:19 PM, <gregorydevans () aim com> wrote:
"Do not meddle in the affairs of hackers, for they are subtle and quick to anger" When one thinks of frauds in the infosec community, most people are quick to point to Gregory D Evans of LIGATT Security. He's been on TV, he's been on radio, he's trying to draw as much attention to himself as possible. This man in no way represents this industry Many people have done good work in trying to bring him down, and many of those people have put themselves directly in his line of fire. He's gone after people at their home to intimidate them and their family. He's gone after them at their work to discredit them with their employer. And as everyone knows, he recklessly sues anyone who speaks negatively of him on the internet. Enough is enough. He must be stopped by any means necessary. To that end, at the end of this message is a torrent of the inbox of gregoryevans () ligatt com; the only condition of receipt is that you not talk about the spool or this email release on twitter until after you have the full copy and are seeding it. He may be an idiot but his staff watch twitter for any mention of him, and it's imperative that this file be distributed as much as possible before takedown begins. This release immediately follows with a small regret. Apologies much be given to all the bystanders, innocent or otherwise. Contained within his inbox is personal information of many, many people. Social security numbers, bank account routing numbers, credit reports, and other reports by private investigators. It was completely impractical to redact all of this information in any effective manner, and for that: sadness. If in your search through this release you find personal information, please contact the person and notify them. Even when GDE finds out of this breach, it's quite unlikely that he will follow proper breach notification procedures. To the victims of Gregory Evans: please speak out. Defend yourself with the law. Your cause is righteous but he can only be brought to justice with your help. Don't stop fighting for integrity and truthfulness. To the employees and former employees of Gregory Evans: please speak out. We have read about the illegal treatment of you all; do not stand idly by. Talk to a lawyer about what he has subjected you to. Many of you have seen his illegal acts and some even asked to perform some on his behalf. This man is a con artist and will only continue to victimize people. To the partners and directors of Gregory Evans' many companies: shame on you. You took the easy way, following a crooked man in pursuit of money. Get out now while you still can. All that he has promised you will very soon disappear. If you decide to hang on, you will be brought down with him. To the brave soul who helped make this possible: thank you. You took great personal risk to bring this information forward, and none of it would be possible without you. It's unclear how you tolerate his lies day after day, but you've redeemed yourself by supporting this cause. Finally, to Gregory D Evans: it is done. All your lies are out in the open. Your investors will know. Your lawyers will know. Your employees will know. Your mother will know. Your lovers will know. Just step away and move on. Stop the stock scams. Stop the lawsuits. Stop the harassment. Stop robbing your employees. Stop embezzling. Stop deceiving every person in your life. When your child grows up and learns about you, the only legacy you'll be leaving is one of deception and fraud. Happy Birthday Mr. Evans http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=qA4fBYcG archive password will be released shortly _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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