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Re: Getting Off the Patch
From: phocean <0x90 () phocean net>
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:22:53 +0100
If you don't do any testing and don't care then you don't have that work or money to lose with patching. But I said that already. -pete.
Pete, I can't leave that one. Seriously and with all the respect I have for you, have you ever worked for a large company ? First, there are ALWAYS (we are talking about scaling organisations, right, not about startups) SEVERAL environments for critical applications. Not for patching, but for coding, testing, validating and producing. Each platform can be used for testing the patches. Patch management doesn't involve additional cost here. It is just the way production environments work. Second, companies using critical applications and serious about their users and environments don't care about the cost of a few more servers if ever it was required. I am aware one can find tons of counter examples of big companies failing in having such processes, but it is an organization problem. Not a patch management one. phocean _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: Getting Off the Patch, (continued)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch Zach C (Jan 13)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch Pete Herzog (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch phocean (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch Pete Herzog (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch Thor (Hammer of God) (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch Christian Sciberras (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch Thor (Hammer of God) (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch Pete Herzog (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch Pete Herzog (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch phocean (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch phocean (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch phocean (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch Paul Schmehl (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch Pete Herzog (Jan 17)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch phocean (Jan 17)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch phocean (Jan 14)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch Pete Herzog (Jan 17)
- Re: Getting Off the Patch Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 14)