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Re: [OT] the nigger said: "American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules"


From: "Zach C." <fxchip () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:00:32 -0700

Indeed? Are they supposed to be taking pictures of events with handmade
cameras? Wearing clothes they made from the ground up? Not shaving or
shaving with crudely-fashioned makeshift blades from spare metal?

The usage of corporate products does not disqualify one from criticizing
those corporations, their behaviors, their products or the government. At
least partially because it's practically unavoidable for most people. Are
you honestly saying they should have just spread local word of mouth in
their area and hoped it would sweep the country because that wouldn't have
used any corporate resources? That is a most inefficient way of moving
people, especially with a news media that is proving actively hostile to
those who are admittedly threatening its cushy seat.
On Oct 12, 2011 9:41 AM, "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor () hammerofgod com>
wrote:

 I saw this on FB and thought I would pass it along:****

http://99percentexif.tumblr.com/****

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It’s the exif data from the photos the 99%’ers are posting – showing the
$1000 systems, cameras, and software they are using to post.  ****

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*From:* full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:
full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] *On Behalf Of *Christian
Sciberras
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:45 AM
*To:* noloader () gmail com
*Cc:* full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
*Subject:* Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] the nigger said: "American people
understand that not everybody's been following the rules"****

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Regarding who's doing the most damage to US economy, I'll just say I won't
comment.****

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I take issue with the 1%/99% idea; ie, the excuse that some people deserve
more just because they are allowed to lie - even if it makes them
hypocrites.****

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On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com>
wrote:****

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Christian Sciberras <uuf6429 () gmail com>
wrote:
Darren's and indeed many other people's lame excuse is that they're too
humble to be greedy. As if!****

Its not about greed - pursuit of wealth is fine. You just can't harm
others while doing it. (Well, apparently you can in the US).

One of the funniest things I ever read regarding Bin Laden's little
war was a boycott of the US dollar to reduce reliance [on the dollar]
and to harm the US economy [1].

Thought experiment: terrorist wanted to ruin the US economy. US
Financial institutions threw the US (and world) economy into a
recession (again). The US financial institutions responsible must be
terrorist organizations.

Thank {insert higher being here} that Bin Laden did not make a PAC
contribution on 9/10.

Jeff

[1] http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/30/world/middleeast/30binladen.html****



On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com>
wrote:

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Darren Martyn
<d.martyn.fulldisclosure () gmail com> wrote:
Chris - Empathy, guilt, and morals. Guilt being a major factor. The
possibility was always there to make millions via evil means, but
morals
and
knowing it would be hard to live with.

The problem is not getting lots of money. That is the easy part. The
issue
is with living with yourself afterward.
How about illegal? Check out the Hobbs Act [1]. I'm not making this
crap up - the US has laws on the books for negatively affecting
commerce (which the crash did), and using fear to peddle their warez
(how financial institutions market their instruments). There's
probably provisions in the PATRIOT Act, too.

The last tine I checked (about a year ago), the SEC had opened fewer
than 100 civil investigations. No criminal investigations, despite the
fact that some of the financial institutions created spurious ratings
companies just to rate their instruments 'good'.

Jeff

[1]

http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/131mcrm.htm
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[SNIP]****

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