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Re: Search and Seizure of Email
From: 夜神 岩男 <supergiantpotato () yahoo co jp>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:38:53 +0900
Nicely put. Too bad folks in the other OT thread on this list (and around the world) don't feel the same way about economics -- and other things, like healthcare, for that matter... Its all about manning up and making yourself secure in whatever way that means to you, no matter how futile everything ultimately is. As we exist within a thin, delecate biosphere wrapped about a rocky conglomerate hurtling through cold, uncaring space and have only arrived in our current state after millions of years of lethal evolutionary struggle it is shallow to think that we have somehow arrived at a special point in time and struggles no longer apply -- and that now all that must be done is write a few laws and freedom, liberty, information privacy, jobs and free bags of money will come pouring in. Nobody cares about your problems, your health, your liberty, your freedoms, your life or your privacy but you. And nobody can be compelled to be concerned with such things, they themselves being in the same situation. Laws are a fancy way of attempting to coerce the government monopoly on violence to enforce a sense of caring within society, and this always fails (and is usually, in the ultimate irony, centered on money and materials, the very things that "caring" isn't made of in the first place). This applies whether we're talking about "my online privacy" as if it were a right, "my healthcare" as if it were a right, or even child education or employment. On 10/13/2011 12:16 AM, Daniel Sichel wrote:
In fact, law enforcement officials don?t even need a search warrant to access private emails.In point of fact, nobody does, although acquiring this access is clearly easier for law enforcement. One of the burdens that the freedom the Internet brings, is the freedom. Your email is out there, typically unencrypted, available to anyone who can snatch the packets off the wire, Any ISP employee with appropriate read rights on a mail server. Take responsibility for your own email. Encrypt it if you must, but for heaven sakes, own the fact that it is publicly visible. If we do not take responsibility for our own email and whine about others reading it, than there will HAVE to be regulations by government to protect us. That's what government does. That's what it is SUPPOSED to do. So before we invite Godzilla to protect our email, how about we just man up and take responsibility ourselves? But that's just the idea of a bunch of dead white guys like Edmund Burke, John Adams and James Madison, and what do they know? Dan Sichel _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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Current thread:
- Search and Seizure of Email Daniel Sichel (Oct 12)
- Re: Search and Seizure of Email Christian Sciberras (Oct 12)
- Re: Search and Seizure of Email Laurelai (Oct 12)
- Re: Search and Seizure of Email Christian Sciberras (Oct 12)
- Re: Search and Seizure of Email Justin Klein Keane (Oct 12)
- Re: Search and Seizure of Email Laurelai (Oct 12)
- Re: Search and Seizure of Email 夜神 岩男 (Oct 12)
- Re: Search and Seizure of Email Christian Sciberras (Oct 12)