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Re: Nordea Sweden shuts Internet banking due to targeted phishing


From: jm () jmason org (Justin Mason)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:55:05 -0700

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Blue Boar writes:
Drsolly wrote:
Banks could fix the phishing problem if they had the incentive. It isn't 
bad enough yet to make them want to fix it.

I wonder whether it can be solved.  The fundamental problem is that 
people can be tricked into going to a web site that looks like something 
they use, and putting in their creds.  That's set of people A.  You can 
change the legitimate site such that there is something noticably 
different about the legitimate site that some people can notice and pay 
attention to.  Call this set of people B.  How much intersection is 
there between sets A and B?

Depends, in my opinion, on the degree of change made to the legit site,
and its practices.  If they carry on treating the web and email as another
marketing channel, with HTML-heavy newsletters sent via SMTP through
outsourced mass-mailing companies, it's a lost cause.

See: 

- - John Levine's "Phish or Phair" tests -- good luck telling the "real
  deal" from the phishes: http://weblog.taugh.com/phish1.html ,
  http://weblog.taugh.com/phish2.html .

- - Adam Shostack's _Preserving the Internet Channel Against Phishers_,
  http://www.homeport.org/~adam/phishing.html , in which he gives
  4 simple steps that *will* fix the problem.

- --j.
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