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RE: The end of Phishing in sight?


From: "Richard M. Smith" <rms () computerbytesman com>
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:10:23 -0400

People seem to accept using tokens at ATM's just fine to get to their money.
Why not for their online bank accounts?  (A better form factor might be a
thick credit card, rather than a key fob.)  The bigger problem is that these
fobs only marginly increase security over PINs and passwords.

Richard 

-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On
Behalf Of Gary Warner
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:12 PM
To: funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: [funsec] The end of Phishing in sight?

This whole thread rather loses the point that carrying an RSA token for
banking purposes is going to be a HUGE burden on the end-users, that they
will probably not go along with.  At my employer, we grant "email only"
access on a password, and "full network" access (really only those portions
published in their Citrix neighborhood) to people who use the RSA token.  We
have 1300 users, and have given out less than 100 tokens.  Most of them we
have given out are either not used, or actually RETURNED.  Of the few that
use them, a goodly number have had to get replacements, as they lose the
token.  Or they call on the weekend because they want something on the
network but their token is at work, and what should they do?

The whole thing rather surprised me, as in other industries where I have
worked you had to have your token with you to log in to your own PC even at
work!  I guess its a "corporate culture".  The problem is "what is the
corporate culture of a home banking customer"?

My guess is banks that force the issue will see a great customer migration.
Certain security-minded customers flocking to them, and probably 3x as many
convenience-minded customers fleeing them.

_-_
gar  (who admittedly hasn't read the whole thread yet, and may be repeating
something someone else said.)
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