RE: How's this for fun?

[Blanchard_Michael () emc com]

 It would be very nice fi the ISP's would give you an option for "no blocks
of any kind" on your pipe.  That would make me happy.

  Although, I don't' really have any complaints about my local comcast
office.  It's just the priciple behind blocking without telling, and whether
you require the block or not, type deal.

  I cartainly agree with keeping costs low and helpdesk calls to a minimum.
Just give me a way to not have any blocks put on my account.


Michael P. Blanchard 
Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, MCSE, MCP+I 
Office of Information Security & Risk Management 
EMC ² Corporation 
4400 Computer Dr. 
Westboro, MA 01580 
email:  Blanchard_Michael () EMC COM 

-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On
Behalf Of Discini, Sonny
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:38 PM
To: funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: RE: [funsec] How's this for fun?

> I wholly disagree with this as well.  If I have a mailing 
> list with 2million people on it, I should be able to send 2 
> million messages within an hour. I'm paying for a pipe, that 
> is all.  IMHO they have no right to limit my usage in any way 
> shape or form.  They do by upload speed.  Right now at home I 
> only have 400k upload, that would limit the amount of 
> messages I could send to that 2million person mailing list.
>
>   Why should I have to pay more just because some idiots send 
> spam to 10's of millions of people and I only want to operate 
> my Crochet hobby list?  I'm already paying for the pipe, and 
> certain speed up/down.  The speed should be the limit, not 
> the number of mail messages I send....
>
>  Mike B

My ISP clipped SMTP but they did place a notice buried 20 pages deep in
their support site (thanks). They also clipped 445 and 139 while they
were at it but somehow forgot to mention this.

What's interesting to me is that ISPs tend to behave like Governments
when they make changes like this. 

10 They all state that the changes are in your best interest. 
20 They believe that placing the change across the board is the easiest,
fastest (and cheapest) way to prevent reoccurrence.
30 When someone finds a way around the change, GOTO 10.

Honestly though, this is a very very tough issue to completely resolve.
I mean, we're paying for the pipe but when you have 90% of the internet
population oblivious to what really happens behind those pretty windows
they're clicking, ISPs find themselves in a tough spot. Do they allow
the pipe to stay wide open only to increase their support calls by 80%
(and hemorrhage cash from their bottom line) when their customers get
infected with [insert any one of millions of horrible things] or do they
attempt to cut out the support costs by taking away certain
functionality? There are also operational costs associated with this
issue but I think I will bail out before I take the fun out of funsec.

;-)
  

Tough call none the less.

Sonny Discini, Senior Network Security Engineer
Department of Technology Services
Enterprise Infrastructure Division
Montgomery County Government


_______________________________________________
Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts.
https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec
Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.

_______________________________________________
Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts.
https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec
Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.