Re: If I were King - was: University of South Carolina e-MailCompromisesStudentIDs

[Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Brian Loe wrote:

> On 4/21/06, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:
> > We tried that, with India. You wind up with India and Pakistan permanently at
> > each other's throats.
>
> I'm not up on your country's dealing with India so I can't comment.
>
> > We tried it in Ireland, dividing the island into Eire and Northern
> > Ireland. You wind up with a region that contains some of each kind, and
> > they're at each other's throats.
>
> I don't think you can honestly say that when England moved into
> Ireland they had peaceful, noble ideas in mind, can you? The
> comparison also doesn't work because Ireland is made up entirely of
> the Irish - who got along just fine

Actually, they didn't. It was because they were fighting each other so 
much, that we were able to conquer Ireland.

> until a bunch of Englishman moved
> in.
>
> Did I miss something? Honestly, my history knowledge on Ireland is
> several, several years old.

You missed quite a lot. You have to start off with 1000 years ago, then 
concentrate heavily on what happened 300 years ago. And that's what caused 
the current mess.

> > Maybe if it was tried in Iraq, it would work? But can we impose that in
> > Iraq now? Wouldn't the initiative for this have to come from the Iraqis,
> > who are showing no sign of wanting that.
>
> As I said, we own that country right now. 

You own the Green Zones. The bits in between are owned by militias, 
theocracies, warlords and anarchies.

> We took it over. Just
> because we're being "nice" doesn't mean we can't start - any time -
> putting the boot down on their heads and telling them how its going to
> be.

Like you did in Vietnam.

> > On the other hand, it worked in North America, divided into USA for the
> > rebels and Canada for the loyalists. So maybe it would work in Iraq.
>
> Maybe. Another reference for how it could work are those US
> protectorates (which do okay, sorta/mostly).

You mean like The US Virgin Islands? That won't work in a country of 26 
million, surrounded by many more millions with deep interest in Iraq.

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