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RE: Surveillance works
From: "Richard M. Smith" <rms () bsf-llc com>
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:16:14 -0400
Success has many fathers. So it is not surprising that we have lots of folks claiming they helped out in the arrest of alledged plotters. The Pakistani's and NSA are two examples. However, given that almost all of the people were arrested are from the UK, the tipster story and good police work by Brits makes a whole lot of sense. The NSA and the Pakistani government were likely brought pretty late into the game: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,208040,00.html The British say their inquiry began months ago - prompted by a tip from within the British Muslim community after the bloody July 7, 2005, terror bombings of the London transit system, The Washington Post reported http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/12/AR2006081200 348.html A suspected British al Qaeda operative arrested in Pakistan has been pinpointed as a key person in the plot to blow up as many as 10 transatlantic airliners. Rashif Rauf was seized by Pakistani intelligence who had monitored his telephone calls and e-mails after a tip-off from Britain's secret services. "He is a British citizen of Pakistani origin. He is an al Qaeda operative with linkages in Afghanistan," Interior Minister Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao said. http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1225453,00.html Britain's MI-5 intelligence service and Scotland Yard had been tracking the plot for several months, but only in the past two weeks had the plotters' planning begun to crystallize, senior U.S. officials tell TIME. In the two or three days before the arrests, the cell was going operational, and authorities were pressed into action. MI5 and Scotland Yard agents tracked the plotters from the ground, while a knowledgeable American official says U.S. intelligence provided London authorities with intercepts of the group's communications. Richard -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Brian Loe Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 11:52 AM To: Dude VanWinkle Cc: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] Surveillance works On 8/11/06, Dude VanWinkle <dudevanwinkle () gmail com> wrote:
Actually, the british authorities were tipped off by a muslim community in london. If they had pissed off their muslim communities, they would never have gotten the tip, -JP
I've not read that as being the dominant source anywhere. Both the UK and Pakistan (who picked up several of the same "ring") appear to have gotten a great deal of information from the US' NSA. And the information sharing between US agencies to make this happen has been highly praised. But, hey, maybe you have better sources than the stories I've read... _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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