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Re: New security measures at the Cambridge Savings Bank


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:58:09 -0500

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:04:33 EST, "Richard M. Smith" said:

To log onto a bank account, one still uses a username and password.
However, the computer must also have a special "security" cookie set on the
computer.  This cookie gets generated by the bank's Web site after someone
answers a number of "secret" questions about their account.  An account can
also be locked down to only work on one particular computer.  I'm not sure
what happens if someone clears out their browser cookies.

Oh dear, another security scheme that provides zero additional benefit if the PC
in question has been pwned by any sort of keystroke logger or similar
spyware - at that point snarfing up all the cookies in addition to user/pass
is trivial.

Of course, to be fair, it's *really* hard to do something in a secure manner
when there's a very real non-zero chance that you're doing the computing on
a platform that's controlled by the adversary.

Anybody got good recent numbers on what % of PC's are essentially pwned by
spyware/adware/etc (include *any* software that's able to "phone home" to
update itself, as it means that added snoopware can be downloaded at any
arbitrary time)?

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