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Re: Security Vendor Bypasses Microsoft's Vista PatchGuard


From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:11:56 +1300

Blue Boar to Dude VanWinkle:

<<snip>>
Isnt that worth something?

It's not a useless attempt, and I don't think they should necessarily 
get rid of it.  It's also not necessarily mutually exclusive with what 
McAfee and Symantec want.

But Microsoft acting like having KPP has now eliminated all potential 
kernel attack vectors, and the need for other security software to act 
there, is a mistake.  Microsoft has now claimed that their software 
won't get to play there either.  And that's good, it changes the 
situation from Microsoft abusing a monopoly to Microsoft making a stupid 
mistake.

Not that I believe that MS will actually keep their security software 
from playing where the other guys want to, but at least it's a claim we 
can look back on.
http://www.microsoft.com/security/windowsvista/allchin.mspx

Yes...

By close analogy, the Sybari purchase is really interesting.  Sybari's 
was the most reliable way of scanning Exchange message stores for 
malware (and any other "inappropriate" or undesirable content) 
_because_ they ignored the "officially sanctioned by MS and 
encapsulated in this public API" approach and actually reversed 
Exchange and developed something that _worked_.  Eventually MS bought 
Sybari, so is doing it the unofficial way on Exchange now to be 
sanctioned?

Hmmmmm...


Regards,

Nick FitzGerald

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