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RE: Hasn't the LA Times and Humphrey Cheung ever heard of the Electronics Communications Privacy Act?


From: "Richard M. Smith" <rms () computerbytesman com>
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:22:38 -0400

I personally would hate to stake my future freedom on a grammer
interpretation. ;-)

Want to take a crack at the California law next:

   PENAL CODE SECTION 630-638 
 
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&;
file=630-638
 
Richard   

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From: Matthew Murphy [mailto:mattmurphy531 () gmail com] On Behalf Of Matthew
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To: Richard M. Smith
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Subject: Re: [funsec] Hasn't the LA Times and Humphrey Cheung ever heard of
the Electronics Communications Privacy Act?

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On Apr 28, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Richard M. Smith wrote:

Matt,

What about (16)(F) then:

   (16) "readily accessible to the general public" means, with
   respect  to  a  radio communication, that such  communication  is
   not-- (F) an electronic communication

The law reads:

...the communication is a two-way voice communication  by radio;  *or*

           (F) an electronic communication;

The notation is confusing, but I read it as:

((not (A) and not (B) and not (C) and not (D) and not (E)) or not (F))

There are several potential interpretations here, and only one seems
reasonable:

1. ECPA states that any communication which is *not* any of the six classes
defined in (16) is "readily accessible to the public".
Under this interpretation, telephone calls, long held to be protected
communication, would be made subject to warrantless interception by the
general public post-ECPA, as they are not encrypted or scrambled.

2. ECPA states that any communication which is *not* *all* of the six
classes defined in (16) is "readily accessible to the public."
This interpretation would be in error, because it would functionally  
ask the presiding judge to disregard the word 'or' before (16)(F).   
What's more, (16), interpreted in this manner, would exclude *all electronic
communications* from interception, which would make the use of radio
scanners by the public to pick up police/fire/medical traffic illegal, thus
banning the media from following reports of e.g., traffic accidents.

3. ECPA states that any of the communication types listed in (16)(A)-
(16)(E) are subject to interception *if* they are electronic in nature
(hence the 'or').
This would make more sense.  If you interpret (16)(F) as blocking
surveillance of electronic communications, the preceding sections don't make
much sense.  If the law were interpreted differently, my oral and written
communications would have to be encrypted,  
transmitted using non-public modulation techniques (yodeling?   
hieroglyphic substitution?), carried on a subcarrier (here pidgey, pidgey,
pidgey...), carried by a common carrier (mail might meet this), or
transmitted over a frequency allocated by the FCC for broadcast purposes
(tin cans on street corners excluded, sorry).
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