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Re: Germans Wary of Security Measures


From: Florian Weimer <fw () deneb enyo de>
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 22:36:11 +0200

Opposition lawmakers say Schaeuble, who told a German magazine recently
that suspected militants should be denied the presumption of innocence,

He didn't say this, he only wanted his audience to interpret it that
way.[1]

is exploiting Germans' fear of terrorism to expand the powers of
police and intelligence services. Some officials here view the
debate as similar to the one in the U.S. over constitutional
questions raised by the Patriot Act.

And politicians usually know what their audience wants to here, so I
doubt there will be much debate outside a few rather obscure circles.

[1] We've got fairly elaborate rules what police and others can do to
    in case of imminent danger.  The whole thing is pretty much
    separate from the rules of due process, so the question of
    presumption of innocence does not even arise.  This is not a
    recent development, either.
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