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RE: The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?)
From: "Larry Seltzer" <Larry () larryseltzer com>
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 18:54:18 -0400
I see lots of books supposely by Erwin Rommel on Amazon. Do the Books advanced search and search on him as Author. Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Security Center Editor http://security.eweek.com/ http://blogs.eweek.com/cheap_hack/ Contributing Editor, PC Magazine larryseltzer () ziffdavis com -----Original Message----- From: ge () linuxbox org [mailto:ge () linuxbox org] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 6:51 PM To: Larry Seltzer Cc: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?) On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 04:54:32PM -0400, Larry Seltzer wrote:
Who's more posh, Clausewitz or Sun Tzu? I hear Rommel wrote a book
too. I haven't been able to locate it (yet).
Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Security Center Editor http://security.eweek.com/ http://blogs.eweek.com/cheap_hack/ Contributing Editor, PC Magazine larryseltzer () ziffdavis com -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of ge () linuxbox org Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 3:03 PM To: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: [funsec] The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?) People have been wondering why I've been keeping quiet on this issue, especially since I was right there helping out. A lot of people had information to share and emotions to get out of the way. Also, it was really not my place reply on this - with all the
work done by the Estonians, my contributions were secondary. Mr. Alexander Harrowell discussed this with me off mailing lists, and our discussions are public on his blog. Information from Bill Woodcock on NANOG was also sound. As to what actually happened over there, more information should become available soon and I will send it here. I keep getting stuck when trying to write the post-mortem and attack/defense analysis as I keep hitting a stone wall I did not expect: strategy. Suggestions for the future is also a part of that document, so I will speed it up with
a more down-to-Earth technical analysis (which is what I promised
CERT-EE).
In the past I've been able to consider information warfare as a part of a larger strategy, utilizing it as a weapon. I was able to think of
impact and tools, not to mention (mostly) disconnected attacks and defenses. I keep seeing strategy for the use IN information warfare battles as I
write this document on what happened in Estonia, and I believe I need more time to explore this against my previous take on the issue, as well as take a look at some classics such as Clausewitz, as posh as it
may sound. Thanks, Gadi. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?) ge (Jun 01)
- RE: The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?) Larry Seltzer (Jun 01)
- Re: The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?) Åke Nordin (Jun 01)
- Re: The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?) sam stover (Jun 03)
- Re: The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?) ge (Jun 03)
- Re: The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?) sam stover (Jun 03)
- Re: The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 03)
- Re: The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?) Åke Nordin (Jun 01)
- RE: The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?) Larry Seltzer (Jun 01)
- Re: The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?) ge (Jun 01)
- RE: The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?) Larry Seltzer (Jun 01)
- Re: The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?) ge (Jun 01)
- Re: The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?) ge (Jun 01)