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RE: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier


From: Charles PICKENS <charles.pickens () itergy com>
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:46:57 -0400

I would not dismiss "social engineering" too lightly... but I think the boat may be missed in that it works both ways.

Good security, at least as far as I can see through my myopic visual sensors, necessitates a form of reverse-social 
engineering in order to secure your infrastructure. Hardware and software limitations, as discussed ad nauseam here and 
in other arenas, are limited by the realities of business incentives and resources while hackers, phishers, spammers 
(salty), etc. are diverse in tactics and resources (infinite monkeys comes to mind).

I know, we've all tried to teach "users" to take their own IT security more seriously, and with the same limited 
results, but it may soon be impossible to function outside of the "connected space" and people need to be aware that 
you can't roam around the internet without knowing a minimal amount of security anymore than you can walk around 
Compton* with $100.00 bills hanging out of your pockets.

*Compton selected due to higher than average exposure via international media for street crime. See, I'm always looking 
out for our bretheren from out-of-country... even if I'm also there.
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From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of David Harley [david.a.harley () 
gmail com]
Sent: October 4, 2007 3:17 PM
To: 'Paul Ferguson'; funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: RE: [funsec] Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier

Note: This is an excellent summary of the Storm situation.

I suppose. I did find his assertions about the powerlessness of AV and the
citing of stuff like old school social engineering as the future of malware
a little Chicken Little.

--
David Harley
http://www.smallblue-greenworld.co.uk


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