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Re: Cyber Vigilantes Track Extremist Web Sites, Intelligence Experts Balk at Effort


From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org>
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:54:25 -0400

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 09:52:22AM -0400, Richard M. Smith wrote:
Just last month alone, Warner was instrumental in helping shut down three
Web sites hosted by a Tampa Internet service provider (ISP) that contained
text, images and video related to attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq and
Afghanistan.

What an abysmally stupid person.  Hasn't it occured to this idiot that:

        - when your adversary is busy blabbing about their thinking,
                strategy, tactics, etc. that the last thing you want
                to do is get them to shut up?
        - that even amateurish spammers work around things like this
                with ease, so surely any terrorist organization
                worthy of the designation can do the same?
        - that if the pros have spotted such a web site, and have
                concluded that it something other than a fake or
                a random annoyance, that they have no doubt by now
                sent a national security letter to the web host
                and are harvesting the logs, so shutting down the
                site cuts off a stream of possibly-useful intel?
        - that a sufficiently-clever adversary could use each one of
                these incidents to gain counter-intelligence?
        - that shutting down a web site does absolutely nothing toward
                getting the material removed from the Internet?
        - that "getting the material removed from the Internet" isn't
                an attainable goal, and may not even be a desirable one?

<sigh> I suppose not.

---Rsk
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