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Re: idea
From: Mike Preston <mike () technomonk com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 17:22:52 +0000
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Its not that bad an idea... However, you still need to find a way to find the sites in the first place, find out they are who they say they are and then authenticate the downloads. Not impossible, but not trivial either. Mike Preston RandallM wrote:
Matt I am not referring to ddos but to the common folk being hit with the fake malware and anit viurs programs at tremendous rates lately. Have a way to "get to" help sites and programs. On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Jonkman <jonkman () jonkmans com <mailto:jonkman () jonkmans com>> wrote: You pay big bucks to use akami. And they don't give the service away. I don't think it's that big a threat these days. Good colo with some basic anti-ddos isn't to tough to get if you're a frequent target. I haven't been hit for a half a year at least, and don't expect any anytime soon. Matt RandallM wrote: > Ok, great stuff so far. Is akami the answer. How can that be done. How > can we use that and how can it be tested. > > > > On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Matt Jonkman <jonkman () jonkmans com <mailto:jonkman () jonkmans com> > <mailto:jonkman () jonkmans com <mailto:jonkman () jonkmans com>>> wrote: > > I had a similar idea a few years ago (I may have been drinking at the > time too). > > Mine was more oriented to when we were taking a ddos every week as > security projects. I proposed all of us poor open source security > projects band together and do an akami type hosting. Everyone hosted > everyone that was part of the setup, and we used dns to spread the load. > > But alas, ddos isn't the problem it used to be. Probably good we didn't > go through the effort to make it happen. > > Matt > > Paul Ferguson wrote: > > It's called Akamai. :-) > > > > - ferg > > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 7:58 PM, RandallM <randallm () fidmail com <mailto:randallm () fidmail com> > <mailto:randallm () fidmail com <mailto:randallm () fidmail com>>> wrote: > > > >> ok, I am drinking, after all it is the NYE celebration. But, I > had this > >> idea pop in. Remember, it is a "first thought idea". That means I > am in > >> need of input to brainstorm with me on it. Here is the initial > thought: > > > >> When fixing infected computers I find that: > >> 1. most people don't have programs installed for preventive much less > >> combative > >> 2. depending on the infection one cannot download programs or go to > >> "helpful" sites to use. > > > >> malware sites often rotate IP or DNS in order to "hide". > > > >> Thought: > >> Why can't we using the same type of process provide access to > programs > >> and or sites in the same manor so that the malware infections cannot > >> "block" because the sites are not permanant? > > > >> Symantec is and always will be "www.symantec.com <http://www.symantec.com> > <http://www.symantec.com>", as with other sites. > >> they are blocked by malware infections (in various ways that I > would love > >> to > >> understand more). If there were "server" around the globe open with > >> online scanners and tools that rotated with DNS and or IP > addressing the > >> malware could not block it. > > > >> Can this be done with a revolving network of servers from volunteers? > > > >> Make sense or have I already drank too much? > > > >> -- > >> been great, thanks > >> Big R > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > >> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > >> Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------- > Matthew Jonkman > Emerging Threats > Phone 765-429-0398 > Fax 312-264-0205 > http://www.emergingthreats.net > -------------------------------------------- > > PGP: http://www.jonkmans.com/mattjonkman.asc > > > > > > -- > been great, thanks > Big R -- -------------------------------------------- Matthew Jonkman Emerging Threats Phone 765-429-0398 Fax 312-264-0205 http://www.emergingthreats.net -------------------------------------------- PGP: http://www.jonkmans.com/mattjonkman.asc -- been great, thanks Big R ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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