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Re: Holy Crap: Using a Command Prompt is 'SuspiciousBehavior'


From: "Andre' M. DiMino" <adimino () shadowserver org>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 07:49:36 -0400

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The cop talks about his experience as that is the requirement for an
affiant in a Probable Cause statement.

Also, the PC statement is not there to accuse or charge, but to state
the reasons for requesting the warrant. Depending on they type of case,
consent to search is usually requested first, and if denied, the PC
process begins.

Often, a great deal is learned about other parties and individuals by
examining the initial suspect's computer. Many times also, that suspect
is cleared and the investigation follows another trail.

Andre'


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quispiam lepidus wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Larry Seltzer <larry () larryseltzer com> wrote:
I read the whole warrant and I think Paul has a point. The point about
using 2 operating systems is strange and irrelevant, but there's a lot
more in there than just accusing him of being technically sophisticated.
And while there's definitely the accusation in there of evidence of
crimes, I'm still not sure what he's accused of. Is it the outing
incident? Is it the accusation that he hacked into the BC grading system
to fix grades? Is it his "cache of approximately 200+ illegally
downloaded movies as well as music from the internet"? That he "jail
breaks" cell phones ("possibly stolen ones")?

I suppose the lines about how sophisticated he is (the guy's name is
Riccardo F. Calixte) are in there to tell the Judge that he's capable of
the mass-e-mailing.

Larry Seltzer
eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
http://security.eweek.com/
http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
larry.seltzer () ziffdavisenterprise com

I wondered the same thing. The EFF appear to be alluding to the fact
he's being charged for the gay profile + emailing to campus mailing
list of said profile.

I don't get how they think someone who's capable of changing grades
would leave behind all of the evidence he did. They also stated he
worked for the IT dept. Surely he'd be aware of the type of logging
enabled on the campus network?

Maybe the room mate in question is behind it all, they had a falling
out, he accessed the accused PC, and did the rest himself. It'd
explain all of the logs left behind ;)

I love how the cop talks about his experience in the warrant
application :) Also the justification on what they should take (people
write down passwords you know!), "anything that can be used to store
computer data, CPU's, scanners, books, yada yada". The central
processing unit isn't somewhere i'd usually store data, especially
when my pc is turned off. Scanner? Please. Books? Better take all the
pens and paper in the house too.

It reminds me of when a certain skiddie got busted a few years ago,
and they took his alarm clock (non digital!).

Anyways, I'll be interested to see how this one plays out.
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