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Re: Finjan botnet story - fact or fiction?


From: "Paul M. Moriarty" <pmm () igtc com>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:09:26 -0700

OK, poor choice of phrase.  Everybody and their kraken is looking for  
PR at RSA.

I was more interested to see if any other researchers had independent  
confirmation of the botnet that Finjan's CTO is talking about.

With the help of David Harley and a quick confirmation call to Ferg's  
hairdresser (who knew Ferg was really a blonde?), it would seem that  
Eset is detecting it.

- Paul -

On Apr 22, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Gadi Evron wrote:

Paul M. Moriarty wrote:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/04/22/world/worldwatch/entry4960984.shtml
"The FBI and British law enforcement authorities are trying to  
hunt  down hackers responsible for the largest botnet (robot  
network) ever  known to the IT world, according to a California- 
based Internet  security company.

They are misinformed as to it being the largest botnet in the world,  
today or in the past. They are also misinformed about it being the  
fastest forming.

Back in the big worms days (when botnets were ignored and more  
people believed me a nut case for saying they exist) having a  
million or 4 infected machines within a day, sometime seven trying  
to connect to one IRC C&C was not unheard of.

Today though, such numbers are pointless.

Regardless, their botnet may exist, but it is a publicity stunt  
regardless. And guess what, it works, which is why everyone does it.

      Gadi.

Finjan's Chief Technology Officer has told the Financial Times  
that  six people based in Ukraine are suspected of compromising 1.9  
million  computers worldwide in just two months — many of them in  
the U.S. "
[...]
"However, Rupert Goodwins editor of CBSNews.com's sister site   
ZDNet.com, says Finjan has offered no hard evidence to back up  
their  claim of discovering the world's largest-ever botnet. "
[...]
So, another new, big botnet or RSA publicity-seeking hype?
- Paul -
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