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Re: press trickery of the worst kind
From: Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:32:17 +0800
This is a bit of an overreaction. Anyone on this list gets an inquiry from someone they're wondering about, ping me privately. There's some good eggs out there. On Jul 15, 2009, at 2:30 PM, "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net> wrote:
I only speak to writers for IEEE technical publications, at peer conferences, write my own pieces, or do first-person, live interviews on TV for this reason. "Clear writers assume, with a pessimism born of experience, that whatever isn't plainly stated the reader will invariably misconstrue." - John R. Trimble I guess a modern paraphrase would be: "Clear speakers assume, with a pessimism born of experience, that whatever Can be twisted and misconstrued will invariably be so." Journalist:(n) One without the literary talent or credibility to write their own prose or be believed on their own, but the ability to twist others' beyond comprehension to suit their purposes.-----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec- bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Gadi Evron Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:42 PM To: funsec Subject: Re: [funsec] press trickery of the worst kind Update: Mr. Harris sent me an email stating he sent in a correction recommendation. Let's see what happens with it. Gadi Evron wrote:I spoke yesterday with one David Harris--I shouldn't have. He is a reporter for a Chinese publication and was writing a story on "cyber war" in the middle east. He was referenced by a friend so I was happytohelp him. I mentioned how whenever there are political and ethnic tensions--anywhere, cyber after-math follows. This often consists of silliness such as kids attacking with defacement and DDoS attacks. I also mentioned "warfare" is buzzword, hyped, over-kill whichshouldn'tbe used lightly. At no point did I speak of Israel as a state. I told the reporterthatIdon't work for the Israeli government these days and that I can't comment anyway as I know nothing about what Israel does or doesn'tdo.Here is what he wrote: "Gadi Evron, a private consultant formerly responsible forsecurity inIsraeli government's non-military computer system, does not deny that his country has a large-scale activity using the Internet to disrupt enemy activities. He just tends to err when it comes to talk of themoregrandiose plots. " Even if I forgive him for calling me a consultant... I called the guy, and he said: "well, you did not deny it". Of course I did not deny it, how can I deny something I know nothing about? He may as well have said I didn't deny the Roswell landing and alien abductions. Immediately after what is referenced to me without quoting, he puts a quote which claims this even more vehemently. He then attributed ittosomeone else at the end of the paragraph almost as an after-thought: "While it is clear Israel has successfully used cyber-tactics against its enemies, it is harder to know to what extent Israel hasbeenhit, according to Dahan. " I don't know where Dahan comes up with his facts, but I my alarmbellsshould have ringed when the repoter, Mr. Harris, asked me about silly rumored conspiracy theories against the US government--they were so ridiculous I don't even remember what they were. Was this reporter just looking for a hit story, no matter if unsubstantiated and unprofessional, or is this some sort of agenda? This is trickery of the lowest sort, and yellow journalism if I'veeverseen such. Unless it was an honest mistake on the reporter's part-- in which case I hope this is fixed soon. You can find his article, here: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-07/15/content_11709201.htm Gadi.-- Gadi Evron, ge () linuxbox org. Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list._______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: press trickery of the worst kind Gadi Evron (Jul 15)
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