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Re: first fallacy of Internet solutions


From: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:36:15 -0700

First Fallacy of Internet <anything> is:

Humans are rational and decent. 

For the vast majority of people that is actually true, but when you
remove time and space as moderators on the effect of sociopathy, you
have to design to deal with the exception, not the rule.

That really holds true for the entire security mindset, hence why most
people who haven't lived outside of the upper middle class international
elite one-conference-room-and-airport-is-the-same-as-another world think
those of us with military and law enforcement backgrounds are paranoid
psychopaths.

-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
On Behalf Of Rich Kulawiec
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 3:53 PM
To: funsec
Subject: Re: [funsec] first fallacy of Internet solutions

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:32:31AM +0300, Gadi Evron wrote:
First fallacy of Internet solutions: getting everyone (or many) on
the
Internet to agree to, or implement, something.

I'd argue that's second, and rephrase it (see below).  First is failure
to appreciate that we've already fought the battle for Internet
security,
and lost miserably.

The rephrasing: failure to ask and think very hard about the answers
to:

      1. What would happen if everyone did this?
      2. What would happen if nobody did this?

---Rsk
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