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Re: first fallacy of Internet solutions
From: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:36:15 -0700
First Fallacy of Internet <anything> is: Humans are rational and decent. For the vast majority of people that is actually true, but when you remove time and space as moderators on the effect of sociopathy, you have to design to deal with the exception, not the rule. That really holds true for the entire security mindset, hence why most people who haven't lived outside of the upper middle class international elite one-conference-room-and-airport-is-the-same-as-another world think those of us with military and law enforcement backgrounds are paranoid psychopaths.
-----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Rich Kulawiec Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 3:53 PM To: funsec Subject: Re: [funsec] first fallacy of Internet solutions On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:32:31AM +0300, Gadi Evron wrote:First fallacy of Internet solutions: getting everyone (or many) on
the
Internet to agree to, or implement, something.I'd argue that's second, and rephrase it (see below). First is failure to appreciate that we've already fought the battle for Internet security, and lost miserably. The rephrasing: failure to ask and think very hard about the answers
to:
1. What would happen if everyone did this? 2. What would happen if nobody did this? ---Rsk _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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