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Re: maybe it's not over- climategate


From: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:28:03 -0800

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On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 2:59 PM,  <chris () blask org> wrote:


My friends who are solidly on the Right are determined that we are either
incapable of impacting climate, that these is no such thing or that it's
all a Communist Plot.  They vomit data (even WND "data", shame on you
Randy) and opinions and shake angry fingers to prove their points - which
are mostly about a Coming Socialist Takeover.  Frankly I think they have
some points as far as questioning the extent of human impact and our
ability to forecast, but the wild paranoid conspiracy ranting makes it
hard to take seriously.

I guess I get the basic political alignment - since we are all embedded
in it, "climate" tends towards group-oriented politics: since it triggers
group-oriented politics, it triggers counter-groupism responses - but the
stridency and dedication to the points along political boundaries still
puzzle me.  Doesn't anyone care what the real answer(s) is/are?  What
would happen to the political Losing Side if/when this is more
definitively answered?  If (as seems majority opinion) mankind is having
an effect on climate does it mean the complete collapse of political
conservatism - even though it would mean we really do need to do
something about it?  If it turns out that we can double our carbon output
four more times without harm (as Martin suggests), would the liberals
throw themselves off cliffs in droves - even though it would mean a
reprieve from looming disaster?

I'm just interested in seeing that we continue to increase our
understanding of (climate, biology, etc).  My political opinions aren't
threatened no matter what researchers discover or propose.  I don't
understand the eagerness of either side to find proof that the world is
either ending any minute or that we should be free to pollute without
restriction.

It's more than a little creepy from both sides.


Regardless of the arguments on either side, we should all endeavor to take
better care of Mother Earth.

You can only poison it so much before [insert pedantic issue here].

- - ferg

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