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Re: predictions
From: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:08:01 -0800
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk> wrote:
Larry Seltzer wrote:What if Google actually follows through on their no-censorship threat? The Chinese can't let them get away with it, so I have to think Google will at least lose some business there. That's a consequence. But plenty of other companies will take their place.I saw some stats on this on CNN (or BBC ?) the other day. Google is a distant not-first in .cn search. IIRC, Baidu has nearly 60% of that market and Google has about a third of the rest (I think in third pace behind another .cn provider). This lowly marketshare (by Google's standards/expectations) means that their advertising revenue is even more heavily affected because revenue per impression, etc depends on marketshare. The commentator suggested that therefore the market loss for Google pulling out of .cn, as a result of the expected intolerance of the Chinese government to Google's non-filtering move, may be smaller than the up-tick in intangibles (feelgood factor, etc) in Google's other markets and with EU legislators, etc, with whom Google is starting to have some, ummm, "difficulties".
Favorite Quote of The Day -- Ira Winkler: "The whole affair reminds me of a scene in the movie There Will Be Blood , when Daniel Day Lewis' corrupt oil baron tries to buy drilling rights from several landowners, and only one holds out. Years later, the farmer, in need of money, reconsidered. The oil baron, in a drunken rage, laughs at the landowner's representative and tells him that all of the oil was in one common pool, and that when he pumped the oil out of the ground from one piece of land, he got the oil under everybody else's land. It was as if he had stuck a really long straw in the farmer's milkshake, he said, adding 'I drank your milkshake.' Given the nature of the Internet, whether or not Google pulls out of China, China will drink Google's milkshake." http://www.pcworld.com/article/187018/chinas_google_hack_shouldnt_surprise_ anyone.html Ira sure can grind out a great quote. :-) - - ferg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) wj8DBQFLUS2Hq1pz9mNUZTMRArfRAKCpwSWg+sGblap3eaGN/ZS5Mknl1ACgvpYi d68qmsvd+DZz1jJHrWDw6Us= =9FyV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- Re: predictions, (continued)
- Re: predictions Nick FitzGerald (Jan 15)
- Re: predictions Larry Seltzer (Jan 15)
- Re: predictions David Harley (Jan 15)
- Re: predictions Martin Tomasek (Jan 15)
- Re: predictions Dan Kaminsky (Jan 15)
- Re: predictions Nick FitzGerald (Jan 15)
- Re: predictions Dan Kaminsky (Jan 15)
- Re: predictions Larry Seltzer (Jan 15)
- Re: predictions Dan Kaminsky (Jan 15)
- Re: predictions Nick FitzGerald (Jan 15)
- Re: predictions Paul Ferguson (Jan 15)
- China tangent Larry Seltzer (Jan 15)
- Re: China tangent chaim . rieger (Jan 15)
- Re: predictions Larry Seltzer (Jan 15)
- Re: predictions Dan Kaminsky (Jan 15)
- Re: predictions Nick FitzGerald (Jan 15)
- Re: predictions H. Kurth Bemis (Jan 19)
- Re: predictions Larry Seltzer (Jan 15)
- Re: predictions Gadi Evron (Jan 15)