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Re: [Infowarrior] - China's Great Firewall spreads overseas
From: Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:41:54 -0400
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:16 PM, RL Vaughn <rl_vaughn () baylor edu> wrote:
On 3/29/10 9:53 AM, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9174132/China_s_Great_Firewall_spreads_overseasSo was this a DNS or BGP issue? The reporter appears to be confused, or was it the Arbor Networks talking head?It was a DNS issue. One host in i-root was providing incorrect answers. The reason for those incorrect answers is unknown but the solution was to remove the responsible host from the i-root anycast.
Anycast, of course, being a BGP technology that multihomes a single IP across multiple locations, exposing the "fastest endpoint" as per BGP calculations to any node on the net. So it's both DNS and BGP. The larger issue, which I guess nobody wants to talk about, is that the Internet is very much designed to be flat along certain dimensions. Anycast itself is a bit of a hack against that -- the same IP is not actually the same endpoint globally -- but at least presumably the backing organization behind the IP is supposed to be constant. Even enterprise level filtering does not violate this rule, because enterprises are *endpoints* and not *routing nodes* on the net. Scaling this sort of operation past the enterprise has scoping issues, that ultimately, predictably, and unfixably lead to network instability.
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- [Infowarrior] - China's Great Firewall spreads overseas Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 29)
- Re: [Infowarrior] - China's Great Firewall spreads overseas RL Vaughn (Mar 29)
- Re: [Infowarrior] - China's Great Firewall spreads overseas Dan Kaminsky (Mar 29)
- Re: [Infowarrior] - China's Great Firewall spreads overseas Danny McPherson (Mar 29)
- Re: [Infowarrior] - China's Great Firewall spreads overseas RL Vaughn (Mar 29)
- Re: [Infowarrior] - China's Great Firewall spreads overseas Dan Kaminsky (Mar 29)
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- Re: [Infowarrior] - China's Great Firewall spreads overseas Juha-Matti Laurio (Mar 29)
- Re: [Infowarrior] - China's Great Firewall spreads overseas RL Vaughn (Mar 29)