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Re: The Economist, cyber war issue
From: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 22:30:09 -0700
It's pretty much what Winn Schwartau warned of in "Terminal Compromise" 20 years ago; with the usual Elitist and Dirigiste answer that "Arms Control" is the solution. I'm a subscriber to "The Economist", and I've found their descent into the antithesis of free market, liberal economics, disgusting; but like a train wreck, I can't stop watching. It's funny that, in the same issue, they report on the SCOTUS McDonald decision (although they clearly tsk tsk at our American idea that the best defense against crime is citizens defending themselves). The reality is that "Arms Control", even more so in cyberspace than meatspace, means only criminals have (effective) weapons. What is needed is a cyberspace version of an armed citizenry. Pardon my arrogance, but I think ThreatSTOP, with our closed-loop ideal, building on the DShield original work done by Johannes, could be the archetype of this. We turn the grid computing effect the bots have, by making all our subscribers detectors; the same way the botnets make all compromised systems attackers; back on them. Flame me if you want, but if you really want to make a difference, tell me how to make ThreatSTOP better.
-----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Joel Esler Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 7:38 AM To: Gadi Evron Cc: funsec () linuxbox org; full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue Yeah! Moar buzzwords! On Jul 1, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Gadi Evron wrote:The upcoming issue will be about cyber war. Check out the front pageimage:http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs488.snc3/26668_410367784059_6013004059_4296972_499550_n.jpgGadi. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.-- Joel Esler http://www.joelesler.net _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: The Economist, cyber war issue Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 02)
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