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Re: Great new security tech, or fraud?


From: "Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah" <rMslade () shaw ca>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:20:03 -0800

From:                   Robert Slade <rmslade () shaw ca>
Date sent:              Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:27:28 -0800

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/20/us/politics/20data.html

In view of this, I found it really interesting to note a very similar case:

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Controversial+device+popular+with+public+pri
vate+employers/4429768/story.html

Computerized Voice Stress Analyzers (CVSAs) have been promoted and sold for a 
least 25 years now.  This despite the fact that, four years ago, the U.S. 
Department of Justice did a study and concluded that "VSA programs show poor 
validity -neither program efficiently determined who was being deceptive about 
recent drug use. The programs were not able to detect deception at a rate any 
better than chance ... The data also suggest poor reliability for both VSA products 
when we compared expert and novice interpretations of the output."

In a sense the CVSA case is much worse, because, since it is a private company 
selling to private companies, there is nobody to say that these people are a) 
wasting money, and b) making poor hiring decisions based on what is essentially a 
coin flip.

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