Re: [techs] Big Brother does not like Occupy?

[David M Chess <chess () us ibm com>]

"Yaron Y. goland" <yaron () goland org>:

> Sorry for the politics, but this does seem to be rather significant. 
What is the risk 
> analysis when the agency you create to defend yourself from terrorists 
starts 
> terrorizing your citizens?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/nov/25/shocking-truth-
about-crackdown-occupy

There's a rebuttal / debunking (from someone not hostile to the underlying 
ideas) here:

http://www.alternet.org/occupywallst/153222/naomi_wolf%E2%80%99s_%E2%80%98shocking_truth%E2%80%99_about_the_%E2%80%98occupy_crackdowns%E2%80%99_offers_anything_but_the_truth/
 


As I said in a facebook thread (no idea how to link to those), "the points 
(1) through (6) that Holland agrees with are enough for me to think this 
is sad and scary and important. (I'm also surprised by his claim that none 
of the Occupy folks he's talked to mentioned Congress and insider trading; 
maybe he did his interviews before that story broke.) " and on the general 
"police agencies have conference calls alla time, it's okay" response, I 
wrote:

"Well, if what they were talking about was basically how to get away with 
violating the right of the people peaceably to assemble, which I think 
they basically were, it bothers me. If they'd all been talking about how 
to make sure that everyone's rights were respected and no one got hurt, 
that'd be fine... "

I spent a few hours at Occupy Wall Street (the day after the Big Eviction 
of the tent-city); it was great:

http://ceoln.wordpress.com/2011/11/18/friday-18-november-2011/
http://ceoln.wordpress.com/2011/11/18/p-s-i-bought-a-stretchy-hat/
http://ceoln.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/occupyin/
http://ceoln.wordpress.com/2011/11/20/the-political-side/

As always, and especially, these comments are my own, and do not 
necessarily reflect anything whatever about my employer.

DC

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