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Re: Flame on!


From: valdis.kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 23:23:47 -0400

On Wed, 30 May 2012 22:51:09 -0400, michael.blanchard () emc com said:
a-effin-men Rob!....  I went through the same screaming fit too....  Even
though it sounds clever until you dig in just a little bit...  20 freakin meg
in size?  I mean seriously????  The only reason it hasn't been caught in 5
years (if that's even true) is because it's so freakin' huge LOL

All the AV products probably have a check "If it's a binary over X bytes in size,
it must be a legit binary from Microsoft or Adobe" check.  Somebody probably
just wrote a meg of code, then pasted in 19M of total dead-code crap from
Microsoft Flight Simulator just to bulk it up over the limit.

"Flame can gather data files, remotely change settings on computers, turn on 
computer microphones to record conversations, take screen shots and copy 
instant messaging chats."  [So?  We had RATs that could do that at least a decade 
ago.]

How big was Back Orifice, which did much of the same stuff *way* back when?

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