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Re: Black Swans and the Challenge of Mitigating the Unknown
From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org>
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:24:00 -0500
It's a decent piece, but it asks the wrong question and the answers it proposes are too late. Much, much too late. By the time that someone has become so disconnected from society that they'll consider a mass shooting and they've acquired the weapons to do so, there is really nothing effective that can be done: there is NO viable defense against a heavily-armed attacker for whom personal survival is not a priority and who doesn't really care who they kill. Oh, sure, yes, eventually enough people with enough weapons will show up and prevail by force, by that's hardly a "defense", as it won't prevent mass casualties (inflicted either by the attacker or by the responders or both, see [1]). The idea that a single or even multiple security guards, police officers, and/or school administrators can stop such an attacker is beyond merely idiotic: it's full-blown batshit insane. [2] [3] The idea that select locations can be hardened is equally ludicrous: there are hundreds of millions of "select locations", e.g., "a rural road in Pennsylvania" last Friday. The idea that more background checks will work is also ridiculous. Like security clearances, they're pure theater. And note that nobody has to pass a background check to take weapons from someone else who did. The idea that deterrents like the death penalty will work ignores reality: someone who has already planned their own death doesn't care what the justice system might have in store for them. The idea that the assholes in the gun industry/gun lobby will take care of this is offensively stupid, given that their existence is driven by (a) profit (b) juvenile fantasies (c) delusion and (d) paranoia. What needs to done, needs to be done much earlier: years to decades earlier. Part of what needs to be done is making sure that the social safety net is working...and it's not. We are now reaping what's been sown by systematic defunding of social programs at all levels over decades, because our national priorities have been focused on useless crap like the F-22 and the military adventures in Iraq/Afghanistan and the "war on drugs" instead of taking care of every child in the country. We have become an incubator for people like Adam Lanza and Eric Harris and Dylan Kliebold and Charles Carl Roberts IV, and we need to stop being one. [4] And part of that is outlawing assault weapons, which obviously have no place in an allegedly civilized society. The former is an attempt to reduce the number of people who will go so far off the rails that they'll engage in mass shootings. The latter is an attempt to make it more difficult for them to be effective if/when they do. Neither is a "solution" per se, but both (and much more) are necessary. ---rsk [1] As noted in: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/22/opinion/the-nra-crawls-from-its-hidey-hole.html "In August, New York City police officers opened fire on a gunman outside the Empire State Building. They killed him and wounded nine bystanders." [2] Reasonably competent attackers who have the element of surprise on their side and/or who bring overwhelming force to bear can often inflict significant casualties. I don't think a single bored police officer standing watch on day #723 at a middle school in Ohio stands much chance against a sudden attack launched by someone with an assault weapon and body armor. He/she will simply be casualty #1, unless he/she is *extremely* lucky or the attacker is very careless. And his/her weapon(s) will shortly thereafter belong to the attacker. [3] I'm not a fan of defensive strategies that involve adding more easily-used weapons (such as, in this case, the possibility of arming adminstrators or teachers, or as was debated several years ago, arming pilots). I think these run a high risk of lowering the bar for attackers, because they reduce the problem set. To wit: "how do I get a gun and bring it into X?" becomes "how do I take away the gun that you brought into X for me?" and of course in some situations the latter is a much easier problem to solve. I note with interest that this is the strategy that the NRA is advocating: add more people with more guns. Unsurprising. But it won't work, because it has never worked, e.g.: http://citypaper.com/news/columns/nothing-changes-1.1418123 "If being heavily armed and willing to shoot back was the only thing keeping us from mass shootings, then there'd be an empty wall in Washington where it lists all the police officers killed in the line of duty." A gun does its possessor no good in these kinds of situations unless the holder (a) has it loaded (b) has it in their hand (c) has the safety off (d) sees or hears the attack coming (e) has the ability to quickly figure out which target to shoot at (f) has the ability to hit the target under duress (g) has the ability to miss non-targets (h) manages to do all of the above before running out of bullets (i) manages to do all of the above before being shot enough times to be incapacitated or dead. Outside of Hollywood fantasies, this is a VERY low-probability sequence of events. Even very, very well-trained professionals often can't pull this off, viz.: http://citypaper.com/news/columns/nothing-changes-1.1418123 "I used to work for and with a guy who was shot in the head by a guy who was trying to kill the president of the United States; you know, a guy who is surrounded almost 24-7 by some of the most heavily armed, best-trained law enforcement officers in the world. Didn't stop Jim Brady or Ronald Reagan from taking a bullet." [4] http://www.childstats.gov/americaschildren/tables/pop1.asp reports a 2012 estimate of 76 million children in US, ages 0-17. The F-22 program cost estimate was $62B in 2006, and no doubt that number has gone up significantly since. So, roughly speaking, that's $1K/child just from one program. Also note that the combined cost of the pointless military adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan is somewhere in the $4T ballpark (see http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/29/us-usa-war-idUSTRE75S25320110629) which comes out to something like $50K/child. Estimates of the cost of the equally pointless "war on drugs" vary, but it's also in the trillions range over the past several decades. (See: http://www.mattgroff.com/questions-on-the-1315-project-chart/ for one look.) _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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