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Re: ddos-stacheldraht server-spoof alerts ( Was: What is this?)


From: "Stephen P. Berry" <spb () MESHUGGENEH NET>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:23:58 -0800

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In message <200102162157.QAA15478 () narq avian org>, *Hobbit* writes:

Windows napster clients attempt to ping everyone in the results list from
a song search, to attempt to get speed metrics on who might be the best to
download from.  So yes, that's usually 100 separate and distinct pings
everytime one of the lusers searches for a tune.

I believe that in fact -all- Napster clients attempt to do this by
default.

The interesting thing isn't that they're pinging but rather:

        -A whole bunch of clients appear to creat echo requests
         with the same ICMP ID (decimal 666)[0]
        -Not all clients (or even the majority of them[1]) exhibit
         this behaviour






- -Steve

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0       Several orders of magnitude more frequently than one would expect
        if the IDs were selected randomly.
1       Based on the traffic I've observed on the wire.

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