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IP: Re: Italian cops reportedly seize netstrike.it servers; mirror site
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 05:57:02 -0400
This note gives me a chance to repeat what I have said in the past. My sending IP out does NOT endorse an action, it tells you about things. djf
To: farber () cis upenn edu Cc: saloxin () squat net Subject: Re: IP: Italian cops reportedly seize netstrike.it servers; mirror site From: remco () rc6 org (Remco B. Brink) Organization: rc6.org <http://www.rc6.org> Date: 14 Aug 2001 10:12:21 +0200Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:25:46 +0200 From: nicholas <saloxin () squat net> Subject: netstrike mirrored at http://www.contrast.org/netstrike netstrike.it is now mirrored at http://www.contrast.org/netstrike There was quite a lot of discussion internally on contrast.org about hosting netstrike. They provide a howto for manual ddos attacks, in a social framework. We at contrast.org do not approve of ddos attacks. But netstrike was taken offline by italian police. It deserves it place on the web. It is mirrored across the world, and on contrast.Netstrike most certainly does not deserve a place on the web and the analogy with a peaceful sit-in is totally wrong in my opinion. Netstrike promotes DDOS attacks, which apart from being extremely annoying and in some countries most likely (if not already) illegal, severely disrupt normal network traffic and cost quite a lot of money to more than just the company responsible for the content on one specific site. The biggest problem is that huge amounts of traffic hardly ever influence just one particular URL. It also affects customers of the ISP the attacked site is run on, their uplink provider, people using the attacked site etc and will therefor disrupt all kinds of network traffic that is totally unrelated to the attacked site. Think DNS, mail and similar traffic here. In my opinion the Italian police (or the "fascist italian state" as they so humbly put it) was very right in confiscating their equipment. If a project like Netstrike would take out *our* uplink provider because it's hosting a site that they don't agree with then I'd love to hear their explanation on why that should cost the company I work for money. Besides, who are they to decide what should and should not be on the net? regards, Remco -- Remco B. Brink - SOL Børs A/S systemsdeveloper - http://www.norge-invest.no Personal site at http://rc6.org - PGP/GnuPG key at http://rc6.org/rbb.pgp "In God We Trust, Others We Monitor"
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