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IP: So much for interoperability
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 02:39:06 -0400
From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com> [Note: This item comes from reader Janos Gereben. DLH] At 15:23 -0700 10/23/01, Janos G. wrote:From: "Janos G." <janos451 () earthlink net> To: "D.H." <dewayne () warpspeed com> Subject: So much for interoperability Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:23:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 iPlanet cuts instant messaging interoperability deal with AOL Nick Patience - www.the451.com Sun Microsystems' iPlanet division has made a significant last minute change to its first instant messaging and collaboration toolset, which it launched this week as an addition to the iPlanet Portal Server. Sun signed a deal with AOL Time Warner to start testing the iPlanet IM tool with AOL Instant Messenger. The two companies are both owners of iPlanet, but Sun always controlled the entity and formally takes control in March 2002, while AOL has already laid off most of its 500 iPlanet staff, with Sun hiring about 300 of them. In signing the deal, Sun is following the lead of IBM's Lotus division, whose SameTime collaboration tools represents the major competition to the iPlanet Instant Collaboration Pack and which already interoperates with AIM. However iPlanet said it views the portal companies, rather than SameTime as the real competition and said that SameTime is still mainly used mainly for "employee to employee communications." And when the451 spoke to iPlanet last week ahead of the official launch this week, there appeared to be no plans to include interoperability with any of the popular IM networks with the software as the company didn't believe that was an important factor for enterprises when deciding on corporate presence and IM software. AOL chose Lotus as the test case for interoperability forced upon it by the FCC as a condition of it agreeing to the acquisition by AOL of Time Warner, which closed in early 2001. Lotus had already been licensing the AIM technology since 1999, although AOL claimed the interoperability was via a slightly different protocol. These arms-length deals appear to be AOL's method of keeping its hand in with the enterprise software industry in which otherwise, it appears to have no interest. But despite the similar tie-ins with AOL, iPlanet and Lotus insist they are on different paths. For its part, iPlanet believes that IM and other applications that leverage presence information are best served through a portal interface. That's because portals are becoming the de facto front-end method for organizing and presenting not only corporate documents, but also employee data. John Fanelli, iPlanet's director of communications and portal products believes another reason portals are, and will remain, so popular is because most employees are project-based these days and are often members of multiple project teams simultaneously. Lotus sees things differently. Bethann Cregg, the company's director of product marketing for collaboration products says Lotus doesn't view the world through portals, although it has a tie-in with IBM's portal software, it views that as juts one type of application in which its software can be used. Cregg said the idea is that presence information should be integrated into whatever application it is that the user is working in. To that end, Lotus is now more interested in licensing its technology to other companies rather than selling SameTime as a standalone product. That's really only happened within IBM at the moment, but she said the company is working to expand beyond the Big Blue family. She points out that Lotus also launched a portal called K-Station (K for Knowledge in this case) earlier this year, although the company does not pretend to be a major portal player. The NetLert technology that Sun acquired as the basis for its presence-based application appears to be a fairly basic combination of chat rooms and buddy lists right now and lags behind the SameTime technology, which includes real-time meetings including audio and video conferencing, but no doubt iPlanet will work quickly to catch up and point to the portal integration as more significant. But it will be interesting to see which approach the market prefers.
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